# Can anyone defend this as true love? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108 "2011-01-10T16:31:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/1 "2011-01-10T16:31:32Z")
Hugh Hefner And Playmate Crystal Harris Get[Engaged.](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1654921/hugh-hefner-playmate-crystal-harris-get-engaged.jhtml) 60 years difference. Hugh looks like he’s way past the December of his life, she’s in the Spring of hers. Can anyone defend this as love, or is it something else? ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/2 "2011-01-10T16:36:15Z")
You need to ask?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/3 "2011-01-10T16:37:13Z")
Looks more like a mutually beneficial business arrangement to me. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/4 "2011-01-10T16:38:02Z")
I have absolutely no idea if these two are in love, true or otherwise. But I can tell you that sometimes extraordinarily mismatched people fall in love. Sure, it’s not the same number of years, but there are 22 between my Old Man and me, and it’s ridiculously nauseating how in love we are. Recent threads about May December romances brought out several similar stories with similar age spans. My Old Man is gray, with most of his teeth gone. He’s got the wrinkles of a man who spent most of his life fighting fires and working farms in the sun. He’s not, forgive me, a handsome man. But he has the kindest heart, the warmest blue eyes and a smile that makes me melt from across a crowded room. And he can make me come like a Roman fountain. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/5 "2011-01-10T16:38:41Z")
It is possible they made some kind of connection that is real and true to them. Unlikely, but technically possible. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/6 "2011-01-10T16:44:15Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Can anyone defend this as love, or is it something else? Only Hefner and Harris can address that with any authority, but I think it’s safe to say it’s not the type of love, or type of partnership, that most of us have in mind for ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/7 "2011-01-10T17:19:40Z")
Why does it need defending? They’re consenting adults. I suspect Harris is probably not in love with Hef, but it’s none of my business. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Surb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Surb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Surb)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/8 "2011-01-10T17:29:23Z")
She truly loves his money, the prestige, and living in a mansion. He truly loves looking at her ass. Sounds like true love to me. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/9 "2011-01-10T17:30:13Z")
I bet she really loves his bank account and I would imagine that he absolutely loves playing with her &%$$@ and her @$$%&!\* ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/10 "2011-01-10T17:31:19Z")
Probably a sound business decision for both of 'em; she gets a fair chunk of change, I’m sure, even with whatever pre-nup there is, and Hef keeps up his image. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/11 "2011-01-10T17:57:46Z")
Why on earth would he need to marry to get a fine looking piece of ass? It may not be love, but it’s not the usual “old man marries young thing to get hot sex”. He already has that mechanism in place. And it’s hard to believe that on a strictly physical level, she has so much more to offer than any number of other women. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/12 "2011-01-10T18:01:52Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Why on earth would he need to marry to get a fine looking piece of ass? It may not be love, but it’s not the usual “old man marries young thing to get hot sex”. He already has that mechanism in place. And it’s hard to believe that on a strictly physical level, she has so much more to offer than any number of other women. Publicity. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/13 "2011-01-10T18:57:30Z")
I would think someone named \*\*Morgenstern \*\*would be an expert on True Love. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/14 "2011-01-10T19:33:31Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > I would think someone named \*\*Morgenstern \*\*would be an expert on True Love. Hell, I was 30 something before I learned there was a difference between lust and love. Don’t look to me for advice. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/15 "2011-01-10T19:46:06Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Hell, I was 30 something before I learned there was a difference between lust and love. Don’t look to me for advice. Wait. There’s a difference? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/16 "2011-01-10T19:46:40Z")
Looks like True Love to me. He loves her ass, and she loves his assets. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/17 "2011-01-10T19:49:40Z")
Morgenstern talking about twu wuv? I see someone beat me to it ☹ DAMN YOU HAMSTER KING! ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/18 "2011-01-10T20:16:48Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > And he can make me come like a Roman fountain. 😉 For better or for worse, this is not imagery I’m likely to forget any time soon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/19 "2011-01-10T21:13:11Z")
Maybe they’ve come out and claimed some sort of traditional love for each other, but there are many relationships where the love isn’t documented according to some sliding scale of traditionalism. They might like each other’s company, and she might have an open relationship wherein she gets the benefits of being married to Hef (there are some) while swinging with guys/gals as she sees fit. It’s whatever the heck they want it to be. Are they out there expounding this deep, classical love story and expecting us to buy it? That wasn’t a rhetorical question. I actually don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108/20 "2011-01-10T22:07:07Z")
It’s a proposition I find unlikely, but possible in light of my own ignorance. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-defend-this-as-true-love/567108.md?page=2)