# Can anyone identify this book?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 5, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762 "2005-04-05T01:54:37Z")
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### Author: ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/1 "2005-04-05T01:54:37Z")

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Vague recollection of a book I glanced at in a used bookstore, and have regretted not buying:

Science and magic are at war. Science is losing. As a last ditch effort, the scientists manage to smuggle a bug into a wizard’s conclave and eavesdrop as the wizards discuss their magic. Using this information, the scientists repeat the magicians spells, codify their findings, and are able to organize magic into a rational system, verifiable by expirement. Magic therefore becomes scientific, and science wins by default.

Ring any bells?

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### Author: ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/2 "2005-04-05T03:07:15Z")

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Interesting! Was it a full novel, or like a short story in an anthology?

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### Author: ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/3 "2005-04-05T03:25:32Z")

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Sounds like something Larry Niven might have written.

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### Author: ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/4 "2005-04-05T03:35:02Z")

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Your description reminds me of Randall Garrett’s “Lord Darcy” stories, set in an alternate universe in which magic has become a science. There’s some info and a list of the stories [here](http://www.answers.com/topic/lord-darcy).

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### Author: ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/5 "2005-04-05T04:31:50Z")

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No, it is definitely not anything from the Lord Darcy series. Those are all mysteries set in a universe where the laws of magic are codified. No war with science involved at all.

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### Author: ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/6 "2005-04-05T15:35:09Z")

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Might the ‘bug’ have been hidden in the eye of a unicorn?

If so, that would be _Siege of Wonder_ by **Mark S. Geston** , published by DAW in 1977…

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### Author: ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-book/297762/7 "2005-04-05T23:30:13Z")

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That’s It! Amazing. Thanks!

Wow. Never thought anyone would know that…
