# Can anyone identify this car model? (Bit of a long shot)

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**Created:** [February 22, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043 "2013-02-22T03:11:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/1 "2013-02-22T03:11:41Z")

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I don’t have a photo of it unfortunately but my brother drew [this picture](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8386/8495914873_4571fafc92_b.jpg) of it some years ago.

It used to lie in the field beside the house my dad grew up in and his brother owned it and I believe my dad learned to drive using it. I found a Ford hubcap lying in the mud beside it one time so I assume it’s a Ford of some type. Anyone able to tell what model it was and what sort of years it might have come out? I had assumed it was '50s, maybe '40s but neither I nor my brother know a whole lot about old cars. The car (and my dad) are long since gone.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/2 "2013-02-22T03:28:49Z")

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This is a total guess, but 1939 ford panel pickup

> **[1938-1939 Ford Panel and Pickup](https://auto.howstuffworks.com/1938-1939-ford-panel-and-pickup.htm)**
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> The 1938-1939 Ford panel and pickup trucks were the new face of Ford trucks. The revamp included a more spacious cab larger cargo box and longer car-like fenders. See pictures and learn about the 1938-1939 Ford panel and pickup.

[![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3618/3546791335_3f5d6b1686_z.jpg) ](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3618/3546791335_3f5d6b1686_z.jpg)

Actually, looking at that the grill lines are horizontal, not vertical. So probably not.

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/3 "2013-02-22T03:34:09Z")

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My guess is a [Ford Model B](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_B_(1932)) (1932 to 1934).

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/4 "2013-02-22T03:55:46Z")

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> [@Darryl\_Lict](#):
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> My guess is a [Ford Model B](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_B_(1932)) (1932 to 1934).

That was my guess too but I haven’t a pup’s notion really.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/5 "2013-02-22T04:20:00Z")

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[QUOTE=An Gadaí]  
I had assumed it was '50s, maybe '40s but neither I nor my brother know a whole lot about old cars.  
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The car is pretty obviously pre-war with the fenders and the narrow grille. However, if it is in fact an early Model B, that could be an understandable since the iconic 50’s hot rod of “little deuce coupe” fame was a '32 Ford B coupe with a high output (then) modern V8. Most field cars are worthless, but because of how rare original body and trim parts are after 60 years of enthusiasts picking them over, that old car might have actually been worth something.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/6 "2013-02-22T04:52:33Z")

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Whatever it is, he’s a good artist!

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/7 "2013-02-22T07:50:55Z")

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> [@Darryl\_Lict](#):
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> My guess is a [Ford Model B](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_B_(1932)) (1932 to 1934).

I think [this is it](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Ford_8_(7Y_bodied_version)_1937.JPG) exactly, with the 7Y body. You can see a B-pillar in the picture like the drawing, and the 8 at the bottom of the grille is the same as well; it’s also got the bug-eye headlights.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/8 "2013-02-22T09:02:30Z")

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That could have been any number of cars from 1930-1944

My first guess was a 100-series Packard.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/9 "2013-02-22T10:50:05Z")

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The Ford 8 was a British Ford; that picture certainly looks like the sort of British Ford (like the Anglia or Poplar) that my uncle used to drive.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/10 "2013-02-22T14:05:12Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> I think [this is it](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Ford_8_(7Y_bodied_version)_1937.JPG) exactly, with the 7Y body. You can see a B-pillar in the picture like the drawing, and the 8 at the bottom of the grille is the same as well; it’s also got the bug-eye headlights.

The top of the grille has a noticeably different line to it, though.

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**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/11 "2013-02-22T14:33:52Z")

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I’m thinking Anglia.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/12 "2013-02-22T15:01:13Z")

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The Model B was sold in North America only. If this was in Ireland, it’s almost certainly a Ford of Britain product. Maybe an Anglia, as **SanDiegoTim** suggests, though it looks more like a [Ford 8](http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDdUt9dK4Yll7vh&w=600&h=596&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fb%2Fb1%2F1956.ford.popular.arp.600pix.jpg) (“7Y”)to me. Note the clear split in the center of the grille and the unusually wide front wings.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/13 "2013-02-22T15:29:42Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The Model B was sold in North America only. If this was in Ireland, it’s almost certainly a Ford of Britain product. Maybe an Anglia, as **SanDiegoTim** suggests, though it looks more like a [Ford 8](http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDdUt9dK4Yll7vh&w=600&h=596&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fb%2Fb1%2F1956.ford.popular.arp.600pix.jpg) (“7Y”)to me. Note the clear split in the center of the grille and the unusually wide front wings.

That’s my favourite guess thus far.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/14 "2013-02-22T15:32:58Z")

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Just realized I spelled _grille_ Commonwealth-style and _center_ in the American style. I am a hybrid dialect, all by myself.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/15 "2013-02-22T15:58:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The Model B was sold in North America only. If this was in Ireland, it’s almost certainly a Ford of Britain product. Maybe an Anglia, as **SanDiegoTim** suggests, though it looks more like a [Ford 8](http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDdUt9dK4Yll7vh&w=600&h=596&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fb%2Fb1%2F1956.ford.popular.arp.600pix.jpg) (“7Y”)to me. Note the clear split in the center of the grille and the unusually wide front wings.

I like this match as well. Note the single wiper, which is on the right side. The wiper itself is missing, but your brother did draw in the wiper mounting stalk in the exact same place as indicated in the photo of the show car.  
Good attention to detail. Nice.

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/16 "2013-02-22T20:44:05Z")

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First off, what country are you in? My guess would be Anglia as well, and knowing where you’re from would help.

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/17 "2013-02-22T21:18:29Z")

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> [@Gary\_T](#):
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> The top of the grille has a noticeably different line to it, though.

I think the drawing doesn’t have that curve because of its low perspective.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/18 "2013-02-22T21:53:41Z")

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> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#):
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> First off, what country are you in? My guess would be Anglia as well, and knowing where you’re from would help.

My brother took a look at this thread and reckons the Anglia is correct. It was in Northern Ireland.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/19 "2013-02-23T05:17:39Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> My brother took a look at this thread and reckons the Anglia is correct. It was in Northern Ireland.

Ok, that effectively deals me out of the game. I don’t know British Fords, and I only recognize an Anglia because of the conversion to drag racers here in the USA. Having done a quick Google, I can’t see much difference between the 1938-39 Ford 7Y (suggested by RNATB) and the 1949-53 Ford Anglia E494A. One site told me that the 7Y was renamed Anglia after a facelift in 1940. So we conclude it is a Ford and your brother concurs. We were fortunate that he chose a relatively common car to sketch instead of a Lea-Francis or Alvis.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-car-model-bit-of-a-long-shot/651043/20 "2013-02-23T05:47:30Z")

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That is a common style of the thirties.

I’m leaning towards [Studebaker Dictator](http://www.velocityjournal.com/pictures/org/79/5908.html). The tall narrow grill was a signature.  
ETA: Ninja’d. Still love the classics.

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