# Can anyone identify this painting? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079 "2011-09-12T18:35:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/1 "2011-09-12T18:35:39Z")
I pulled this image from somewhere on the web, for use in my D&D campaign. Now I’d like to go back and document my sources, but I can’t figure out where I found it. None of the reverse image searches seem to turn it up, so I’m stumped. Here it is at my site: [![](https://themistway.com/pics/theroux.jpg) ](https://themistway.com/pics/theroux.jpg) (The filename is just the name of the character I used it for, so it has no bearing on the name of the painting) Any clues? ---
**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/2 "2011-09-12T19:00:09Z")
It looks a lot like Alex de Andreis’s work, but I can’t find it in any of his image galleries. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/3 "2011-09-12T20:03:30Z")
Oh, and here’s another one I can’t find either: [![](https://themistway.com/pics/antoinette.jpg) ](https://themistway.com/pics/antoinette.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/4 "2011-09-12T21:03:41Z")
I was thinking Rembrandt or Frans Hals, based on the style ---
**Author:** ![Weedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/weedy/32/301_2.png) [@Weedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weedy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/5 "2011-09-12T23:39:38Z")
I thought maybe Rembrandt, but I also think it could be a section of larger painting, which would make it hard to find. Maybe you could recreate the search and find it that way. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/6 "2011-09-12T23:54:14Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > I was thinking Rembrandt or Frans Hals, based on the style Me too, and searching for similar artists turned up nothing. I’m sure I’ve seen that picture before somewhere though. ---
**Author:** ![messiah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3e96dc/32.png) [@messiah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/messiah)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/7 "2011-09-12T23:56:59Z")
The signature looks like that of Ferdinand Roybet, certainly similar to some of his work [http://www.classicartpaintings.com/Painters-F/Ferdinand+Roybet+\_1840-1920\_/](http://www.classicartpaintings.com/Painters-F/Ferdinand+Roybet+_1840-1920_/) ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/8 "2011-09-13T00:33:49Z")
It’s a 19th-century take on something 17th-century (_not_ Rembrandt or Hals or anyone from that century) but I can’t get any more specific. The second one might be by Ingres or someone of that ilk. ETA: I like that Roybet suggestion a lot. That is a very good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/9 "2011-09-13T00:59:39Z")
The second one is reminiscent of the style of Rosetti or Waterhouse, but beyond that, no clue. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/10 "2011-09-13T01:11:47Z")
I pasted the image into Google Image Search and this thread was the top hit of two. [This](http://www.themistway.com/Ravenloft-Session9.html) link was the other but I didn’t see the image on the site when I checked it quickly. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/11 "2011-09-13T02:29:55Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I pasted the image into Google Image Search and this thread was the top hit of two. [This](http://www.themistway.com/Ravenloft-Session9.html) link was the other but I didn’t see the image on the site when I checked it quickly. It’s the same site as the OP links, apparently a Ravenloft campaign info site. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/12 "2011-09-13T02:58:10Z")
[Lookee here](http://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Cavalier/B7E3E4EAD0E4312E). Says it’s called _Cavalier_. But then, this Roybet guy seems to only paint foppish big-hatted beardies. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/13 "2011-09-13T03:00:12Z")
Oh, and then there’s [this](http://www.fineartlib.info/gallery/p17_sectionid/9/p17_imageid/873). Portrait Of A Lady, Edouard Louis Dubufe ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/14 "2011-09-13T03:01:06Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > [Lookee here](http://www.mutualart.com/Artwork/Cavalier/B7E3E4EAD0E4312E). Says it’s called _Cavalier_. But then, this Roybet guy seems to only paint foppish big-hatted beardies. Different painting, same model. You confirmed the artist, though, I think. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/15 "2011-09-13T15:20:23Z")
Wow, thanks everyone for the assistance! > [@Weedy](#): > > but I also think it could be a section of larger painting, which would make it hard to find. This is entirely possible. I have been known to crop pictures to grab a single person from them. > [@](#): > > Maybe you could recreate the search and find it that way. If I could remember what I searched for 7 years ago, I would have. 🙂 > [@jayjay](#): > > It’s the same site as the OP links, apparently a Ravenloft campaign info site. Precisely. [themistway.com](http://themistway.com) is _my_ site. I use it to document our Ravenloft D&D campaign. 7 years ago, I ran an adventure, where I used these two images to represent characters named Theroux and Antoinette, respectively. I have the pics on my site, but I’d like to credit them appropriately. (Also, I’m writing up this adventure for submission to a fanzine, so I want to give a recommendation for pictures. For that I need the names.) Sorry if that wasn’t clear. > [@messiah](#): > > The signature looks like that of Ferdinand Roybet, certainly similar to some of his work Good call on the signature! It’s a Roybet I’d bet. (Roy). And that Cavalier is almost certainly the same guy, I agree. Wow! Even if I can’t find the original, that would be a fine replacement. > [@](#): > > But then, this Roybet guy seems to only paint foppish big-hatted beardies. this had me laughing out loud all night. Indeed, that original search term 7 years ago might well have been “foppish big-hatted beardie.” 🙂 > [@GuanoLad](#): > > Oh, and then there’s [this](http://www.fineartlib.info/gallery/p17_sectionid/9/p17_imageid/873). Portrait Of A Lady, Edouard Louis Dubufe Jackpot, thanks GuanoLad! One found for sure. Now to look through the collected work of Roybet to find my particular FBB. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anyone-identify-this-painting/596079/16 "2011-09-13T15:49:50Z")
“Foppish, big-hatted beardie” seems to be a popular subject for late 19th-century painters, in general. There seem to be a LOT of “cavaliers” painted in that period, if my own searches for the origin of the painting mean anything…