# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2181 "2018-09-21T00:44:13Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> … Underage drinking is an illegal activity, and not [a minor one](https://www.criminal-firm.com/blog/2012/11/penalties-for-underage-drinking-in-maryland.shtml). There is no reason we should treat underage drinking any differently than any illicit drug use when assessing a judge’s history with following the law.
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> But in truth, I do draw distinction between mere drinking and _flagrant alcohol abuse_—of the kind conducive to other crimes such as DUI, disorderly conduct, and yes, sexual offenses. If evidence points to a young Kavanaugh regularly abusing alcohol, not only should we see this as evidence that he grew up disregarding laws specific to juvenile drinking; the reckless excessiveness of his behavior suggests we should also question his regard for other laws. It’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt in the presence of Ford’s allegation; that’s problematic for a judge.
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> Kavanaugh’s best bet is to be honest about his drinking history, but it will be difficult for him to do so without admitting to black outs that undermine his own credibility as a historian. So I’m guessing he will probably lie or obfuscate about it, **despite the evidence that is out there** , which will also undermine his credibility to the public. …

There is a lot of that evidence:

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> … But it fits with a pattern of hard drinking by Kavanaugh — and Kavanaugh bragging about that hard drinking —\*\* that continued long after he left Georgetown Prep\*\*.
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> An examination of the public record, below, is not definitive. But it raises serious questions: Does the nominee for the highest court in the land have a problematic relationship with alcohol? Does it impair his judgment?
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> …The allegation that Kavanaugh carried out a sexual assault in a “highly inebriated state” is not the only indication of underage drinking during Kavanaugh’s days at the all boys private school outside of D.C. In his senior yearbook entry, Kavanaugh refers to being the “treasurer” of the “Keg City Club.” There’s another reference to: “100 Kegs or Bust.” …
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> …Kavanaugh also joined a hard-partying, all-male Yale secret society with links to the frat scene called Truth and Courage. The society was reportedly known also as “TNC” and, more vulgar, “Tit and Clit,” and it initiated members through “elaborate drinking games.” In the words of one Yalie, TNC was “organized around having sex with coeds”; a Kavanaugh contemporary at Yale described TNC members to BuzzFeed: “They just drank a ton. They got drunk… All I remember is them drinking.” …
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> … **Hard drinking did not end in college for Kavanaugh.** During a Yale Law School Federalist Society banquet in 2014, he regaled the audience with numerous drinking tales from his days at the law school. …
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> … Kavanaugh also recalled a bus party he’d organized for 30 classmates to go to a Red Sox game in Boston, followed by a night of Boston bar-hopping, “only for us to return falling out of the bus onto the steps of Yale Law School at about 4:45 a.m.” On the bus, he recalled, “people were doing group chugs” from a keg. “Fortunately for all of us, we had a motto,” Kavanaugh added: \*\*“What happens on the bus stays on the bus.” \*\*…
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> … Kavanaugh and a group of friends organized a 2001 boat trip out of Annapolis, Maryland. The humor of the email chain is both fratty and racist. … In an email dated September 10, 2001, Kavanaugh records his satisfaction with the adventure: “Excellent time. Apologies to all for missing Friday (good excuse), arriving late Saturday (weak excuse), and **growing aggressive after blowing still another game of dice (don’t recall).”**
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> The email does not mention alcohol specifically, but the combination of aggression and memory lapse is consistent with heavy drinking. At this time Kavanaugh was in his mid 30s. Whatever happened on the boat, Kavanaugh was insistent that it stay on the boat, warning his friends: “Reminders to everyone to be very, very vigilant w/r/t confidentiality on all issues and all fronts, including with spouses.” …
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> …As he delivered his 2014 Yale speech, Judge Kavanaugh appeared to anticipate his law school pals would return to form that evening. Referring to a favorite motto, Kavanaugh told the crowd: “Tonight you can modify that to, **What happens at the Fed Society after-party stays a the Fed Society after-party.”** …

> **[“What Happens on the Bus Stays on the Bus” — The Hard-Drinking Life of Brett...](https://medium.com/@7im/what-happens-on-the-bus-stays-on-the-bus-8fd0f13eca97)**
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> Explosive allegations of a sexual assault perpetrated by Brett Kavanaugh have also turned a spotlight on the Supreme Court nominee’s use of…

It’s quite a long article, well-sourced. Kavanaugh’s fondness for the “what happens at \_\_\_\_\_ stays at \_\_\_\_\_\_” construction is striking. One wonders how his apparent fondness for heavy alcohol use ties in with the questionable financial history with the “sports tickets” and with the dice games. (All bolding mine.)

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2182 "2018-09-21T01:13:10Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> I do have a more serious question for those who seem to want to accept this story at face value and think it should be used to determine if Kavanaugh should get the appointment or not: Do you not see a slippery slope here or the unintended consequences that might occur down the road when the worm has turned and it’s the Dems trying to get a nomination of a second progressive into the USSC? To me, this is the filibuster fiasco all over again. But maybe some of you can explain why this won’t be a slippery slope in the future.

I trust there will be unintended consequences. For example, the unintended consequences of the steps leading to Nixon’s impeachment, was a trumped up investigation of a consensual affair involving Bill Clinton. That doesn’t mean that investigating legitimate allegations isn’t proper.

The way to offset this downside, is to push for an FBI investigation now, something that the FBI is willing to do if they receive orders from above. The GOP congress and the GOP executive doesn’t want this, nor do they want a full and fair investigation.

John Mace’s idea of pushing for closed hearings also has merit. I agree with the argument that we should anticipate future Republican malfeasance when conducting proper investigations.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2183 "2018-09-21T01:13:15Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> There is a lot of that evidence:
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> [“What Happens on the Bus Stays on the Bus” — The Hard-Drinking Life of Brett Kavanaugh | by Tim Dickinson | Medium](https://medium.com/@7im/what-happens-on-the-bus-stays-on-the-bus-8fd0f13eca97)
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> It’s quite a long article, well-sourced. Kavanaugh’s fondness for the “what happens at \_\_\_\_\_ stays at \_\_\_\_\_\_” construction is striking. One wonders how his apparent fondness for heavy alcohol use ties in with the questionable financial history with the “sports tickets” and with the dice games. (All bolding mine.)

All that was available to the FBI when they did their investigation of him. Make that investigations. Questions about his “sports tickets” have been raised, and the Senators can make their decision based on his answers. If the Democrats who were not planning to vote for him anyway need more reasons to not vote for him, that’s great.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2184 "2018-09-21T01:17:41Z")

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[Ed Whelan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Whelan_(American_lawyer)), a Republican think tank guy and former Justice Department official, lays out [an argument](https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024) that Ford’s recollection may be a case of mistaken identity. I would expect she might be asked about such in any Senate questioning.

In summary…

A classmate of Kavanaugh, who bears something of a resemblance to Kavanaugh, lived in a home that fits what [Ford described as the physical description of the home](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics/blasey-ford-kavanaugh-letter-feinstein/index.html) where she says the incident took place. And that home was in close proximity to the [Country Club](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.b11dc84200ff) that Ford mentioned the home where the incident allegedly occurred is near. The residence Whelan points to is only a half mile from that country club, much closer than the residences of the other attendees Ford states were there.

Whelan presupposes, without evidence, that the party was held at a house where one of the partygoers lived. It is a reasonable guess to make, but not conclusive. But I would speculate that Ford would not have a problem recalling the location if the party was at her own home. So check the layouts of the homes of the other party participants and see if any match the description given.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2185 "2018-09-21T01:20:51Z")

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Ed Whelan should be fucking ashamed of himself.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2186 "2018-09-21T01:25:40Z")

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If you think Whelan’s theory is much more than a step above Pizzagate, you have some serious issues.

“Oh, there’s a bathroom across from the bedroom! We got him!”

I mean, Jesus Christ guys.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2187 "2018-09-21T01:31:00Z")

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> [@Iggy](#):
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> [Ed Whelan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Whelan_(American_lawyer)), a Republican think tank guy and former Justice Department official, lays out [an argument](https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024) that Ford’s recollection may be a case of mistaken identity. I would expect she might be asked about such in any Senate questioning.
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> In summary…
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> A classmate of Kavanaugh, who bears something of a resemblance to Kavanaugh, lived in a home that fits what [Ford described as the physical description of the home](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics/blasey-ford-kavanaugh-letter-feinstein/index.html) where she says the incident took place. And that home was in close proximity to the [Country Club](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.b11dc84200ff) that Ford mentioned the home where the incident allegedly occurred is near. The residence Whelan points to is only a half mile from that country club, much closer than the residences of the other attendees Ford states were there.
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> Whelan presupposes, without evidence, that the party was held at a house where one of the partygoers lived. It is a reasonable guess to make, but not conclusive. But I would speculate that Ford would not have a problem recalling the location if the party was at her own home. So check the layouts of the homes of the other party participants and see if any match the description given.

Pictures on Zillow do not show a pool.

> **[3714 Thornapple St, Chevy Chase, MD 20815 | Zillow](https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/3714-Thornapple-St,-Chevy-Chase,-MD-20815_rb/?fromHomePage=true&shouldFireSellPageImplicitClaimGA=false&fromHomePageTab=buy)**
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> 3714 Thornapple St, Chevy Chase MD, is a Single Family home that contains 3576 sq ft and was built in 1928.It contains 5 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms.This home last sold for $1,710,000 in December 2013.
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> The Zestimate for this Single Family is...

If this is a case of mistake, why did she have on a bathing suit?

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2188 "2018-09-21T01:35:09Z")

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Ruining some middle school teacher’s life to own the libs. Cool cool cool.

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> [@Iggy](#):
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> [Ed Whelan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Whelan_(American_lawyer)), a Republican think tank guy and former Justice Department official, lays out [an argument](https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024) that Ford’s recollection may be a case of mistaken identity. I would expect she might be asked about such in any Senate questioning.

WAPO: [INDENT] Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” them, Ford said, adding that she had once visited the other classmate in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.” [/INDENT] There has been some discussion on twitter regarding whether Whelan’s twitter storm was libelous. He had apparently been shopping the story around before he tweeted the speculation. Whelan’s acts seem irresponsible in my opinion.

No word yet as to whether Whelan advocates an FBI investigation which could properly evaluate his theory.

Link: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-vows-to-move-ahead-with-kavanaugh-vote-if-his-accuser-doesnt-testify-monday/2018/09/20/a7132ee8-bcf5-11e8-8792-78719177250f\_story.html?utm\_term=.d686c8c24c66](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-vows-to-move-ahead-with-kavanaugh-vote-if-his-accuser-doesnt-testify-monday/2018/09/20/a7132ee8-bcf5-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.d686c8c24c66)

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2190 "2018-09-21T01:43:02Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> For me the real point here is that there is evidence that they were, both of them, Kavanaugh and Judge, at least occasional blackout drunks at this time. How do you deny something you don’t remember?

Yup. If Kanavaugh regularly became black out drunk at parties, then why should we assign any credence to what he says he did and didn’t do at these parties? His denials are meaningless.

Let’s pretend, for a sec, that Ford was the one getting shitfaced drunk at these parties. If that came out in the hearing, we all know the Republicans would instantly use this to attack her credibility. Not only in the sense of poor memory problems but also character problems. In the slut shaming/victim blaming culture that we live in, a woman must first demonstrate all of her actions are sufficiently within the bounds of prim and proper conduct before she can be taken seriously as a sex crime victim. Shameless drunkenness automatically puts you in the “you had it coming to you” box, and maybe also in the “you might be an immoral cunty whore liar” box as well.

Kavanaugh’s defenders want their cake and eat it too. They want to act as if his relationship with alcohol poses no problems for \*his \* credibility, but they want to go to town attacking Ford’s. But the question in front of us is pretty simple: Can the American people take Kanavaugh at his word when he denies sexually assaulting Ford? The answer is no. That’s the problem his past poses to his own case.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2191 "2018-09-21T01:47:21Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Pictures on Zillow do not show a pool.
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> [https://www.zillow.com/homes/for\_sale/3714-Thornapple-St,-Chevy-Chase,-MD-20815\_rb/?fromHomePage=true&shouldFireSellPageImplicitClaimGA=false&fromHomePageTab=buy](https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/3714-Thornapple-St,-Chevy-Chase,-MD-20815_rb/?fromHomePage=true&shouldFireSellPageImplicitClaimGA=false&fromHomePageTab=buy)
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> If this is a case of mistake, why did she have on a bathing suit?

So far I have not seen any statement from Ford saying she was attending a pool party at the home in question.

She has mentioned that she often found out about gatherings when hanging out at the pool at the country club. It is not an unreasonable question to ask if she recalls going to gatherings at homes directly after leaving the country club and if she might have gone to this particular party directly from the country club.

From the previously linked WaPo story:

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> Ford said she does not remember how the gathering came together the night of the incident. She said she often spent time in the summer at the Columbia Country Club pool in Chevy Chase, where in those pre-cellphone days, teenagers learned about gatherings via word of mouth. She also doesn’t recall who owned the house or how she got there.  
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And though some have disparaged the idea of randomly trolling neighborhoods a look at the homes where classmates lived would sharply narrow any search. She mentions a U-shaped stairwell. Look for one in former homes of students from the schools these kids attended.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2192 "2018-09-21T01:47:27Z")

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According to a source, the Committee is seeking an outside lawyer to take the role of…well, what? Inquisitor is a mite dramatic…anyway, a neutral guy who asks the questions. Preferably, a woman.

So that the questions become anonymous? Don’t want to be seen asking the questions they want to be put to Dr Ford? They want to put it to her, just not be personally seen as doing so.

But! What a perfect opportunity to stroke the adoration of their knuckle-walking base. A segment of Fox News, asking “Dr” Ford an acerbic and direct question, like if her clothing was lewd or merely provocative?

So something moved them more than the luscious prospect of a tongue bath from Sean Hannity. All of a sudden, they don’t to be the tough guy. They _always_ want to be the tough guy!

Oh, source? Not good with names, swan’s neck, girlish giggle, steel trap mind…

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2193 "2018-09-21T01:58:42Z")

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Caroline Orr at Shareblue: “Accused child molester Roy Moore defends accused predator Brett Kavanaugh” [INDENT] In an interview with the pro-Trump network One America News (OAN), Moore told Republicans to “take a stand” and support Kavanaugh by dismissing the credible accusations of sexual assault he is facing and confirming him to the Supreme Court without any further investigation. [/INDENT] [https://shareblue.com/brett-kavanaugh-roy-moore-interview-accused-sexual-predators-flock-together/](https://shareblue.com/brett-kavanaugh-roy-moore-interview-accused-sexual-predators-flock-together/)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2194 "2018-09-21T02:04:50Z")

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Odds on Kavanaugh being involved in Zillowgate? Decently high, I think. I hope the Dems ask him, since it would show incredibly poor judgment.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2195 "2018-09-21T02:09:31Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I know that Republicans are desperately trying to avoid investigating the issue. I know that if an investigation would clear Kavanaugh those same Republicans would be desperately trying to force the investigation forward. I’m capable of putting 2 and 2 together. And in this case 2+2 = rapist.

What good could come from the investigation if Kavanaugh is 100% innocent? What would convince you of his innocence? What possible fact would?  
Let’s say she said the incident happened on a date and say he was abroad in Malawi 30 days before through to 30 days after, would that convince you?  
You’re calling a person a rapist without any evidence except one person’s memory. Would you take the same standard for you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2196 "2018-09-21T02:24:56Z")

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He is not on trial. He will not be thrashed. He will not be imprisoned. He will not lose his current job. He may not be elevated to a position of very high responsibility, true. But he will not lose reputation amongst those who already favor him, he has no reputation to lose with anyone else.

The bar of criminality does not apply, here. The question isn’t whether he is punished, but whether he is honored with a position that, presumably, very _few_ of us deserve. I don’t think he does either.

And if he is sidetracked on his career by misfortune, he can go sit by Merrick Garland and bitch to him.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2197 "2018-09-21T02:43:54Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Odds on Kavanaugh being involved in Zillowgate? Decently high, I think. I hope the Dems ask him, since it would show incredibly poor judgment.

OK, you win. Zillowgate? Da fuq?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2198 "2018-09-21T02:57:09Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> I started reading that article, but stopped after getting to this gem: “There is no allegation that the female students who worked for Kavanaugh were chosen because of their physical appearance or that they were not qualified.”
> 
> Could you do me a favor and clarify exactly why you posted this link and the conclusions you may draw from it?

No.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2199 "2018-09-21T03:01:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, you win. Zillowgate? Da fuq?

Ed Whelan’s pet theory I imagine.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/2200 "2018-09-21T03:10:34Z")

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Republicans and LSD. Not a good idea, apparently.

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