# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 163
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3241 "2018-09-24T21:51:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > A guy broke into my house one night many years ago […] > > I was also threatened with death by the hulking, angry and bullying ex-boyfriend of a young woman I was dating […] > > And I was held at knifepoint at this same complex […] :dubious: Are you trying to suggest that _“it simply never occurred to [you] that anything morally wrong was going on”_ during those incidents? Because that’s what you’re claiming here about sexual assault: that it was brushed off as no big deal because _“it was just the way life was”_, and its perpetrators were thought of _“either as an asshole or merely as someone who got carried away”_, but the victims _“wouldn’t think some great moral outrage had occurred”_. I’m guessing, though, that you would argue that the criminals who assaulted or threatened you were in fact doing something morally wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3242 "2018-09-24T21:51:34Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Kavanaugh: I did not have sexual intercourse in high school or for “many years thereafter.” What is this supposed to prove? Only non-virgins attempt rape? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3243 "2018-09-24T21:56:19Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Kavanaugh: I did not have sexual intercourse in high school or for “many years thereafter.” Haha. Nerd! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3244 "2018-09-24T21:59:35Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > It could be the fact that there are many hateful people in the world who would suggest they should feel shame. Why is it always “hate” with you people? Disapproval does not equal hate. Nor does criticism. But I digress. You are conflating my comments about shame over the attempted rape with shame over juvenile misbehavior. Is it really your position that the shame she carried all those years, keeping it all inside as she finished high school, wearing her white dress at graduation and keeping it all inside, was due to her shame at having attended an underage drinking party? ---
**Author:** ![2ManyTacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3245 "2018-09-24T22:01:18Z")
Jesus. I’ve been following the Kavanaugh fiasco like a hawk and damn, I don’t have much to say beyond that confirming him is going to do _so_ goddamn much to delegitimize the Court and make the case for Court-packing that much easier. Maybe we’ll all be better off in some weird way because SCOTUS is such a miserable, terrible institution already. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3246 "2018-09-24T22:08:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > All their bass will belong to us! But will there be sharks with frickin’ laser beams coming out of their heads?? I mean, throw me a bone here, people. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3247 "2018-09-24T22:10:57Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > What is this supposed to prove? Only non-virgins attempt rape? That he’s not that “type” of guy. This is a PR campaign. Plus, it’s very easy to disprove. I’m guessing he didn’t get belligerent drunk in high school or for many years thereafter, either. ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3248 "2018-09-24T22:12:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > A guy broke into my house one night many years ago […] > > I was also threatened with death by the hulking, angry and bullying ex-boyfriend of a young woman I was dating […] > > And I was held at knifepoint at this same complex by a couple of angry whatever-the-word-is-for-Indians-these-days […] So if any of these worthies turned up as Trump’s SCOTUS nominee years later, you would be just fine with that? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3249 "2018-09-24T22:15:17Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > That he’s not that “type” of guy. This is a PR campaign. Plus, it’s very easy to disprove. > > I’m guessing he didn’t get belligerent drunk in high school or for many years thereafter, either. One of the many examples of GOP leaders believing their base are idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3250 "2018-09-24T22:17:33Z")
> [@Pazu](#): > > So if any of these worthies turned up as Trump’s SCOTUS nominee years later, you would be just fine with that? I read his post a few times before ultimately declining to respond, but yes, I believe that is his point. As long as a person’s behavior doesn’t cause lifelong trauma, that person is fit for the supreme court. I defy you to read his post and come to any other conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3251 "2018-09-24T22:17:56Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > One of the many examples of GOP leaders believing their base are idiots. Well, it worked for Principal Skinner. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3252 "2018-09-24T22:22:41Z")
> [@Pazu](#): > > So if any of these worthies turned up as Trump’s SCOTUS nominee years later, you would be just fine with that? No. Any idea why I might draw that distinction? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3253 "2018-09-24T22:24:06Z")
Well, this has been fun, kids, but I got chit to do. Later. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3254 "2018-09-24T22:26:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No. > > Any idea why I might draw that distinction? At a guess, based on what you’ve posted in this thread: Is it because you think the criminal behavior of your attackers was morally wrong but don’t think teenage boys sexually assaulting teenage girls is morally wrong? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3255 "2018-09-24T22:41:17Z")
The TV just reported that Senator Collins has said that the 2nd accuser should also have the chance to testify to the Senate under oath. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3256 "2018-09-24T22:49:13Z")
Kavanaugh has taken to Fox News, so that ought to rally all of those who can’t bear actual news. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3257 "2018-09-24T22:56:25Z")
[What Happened To Brett Kavanaugh Booster Louisa Garry?](https://crooksandliars.com/2018/09/what-happened-brett-kavanaugh-booster) > [@](#): > > By now, it’s unlikely anyone has missed Brett Kavanaugh friend Louisa Garry’s ad extolling all his virtues, since the Judicial Crisis Network ran it on a near blanket basis all last week on cable networks. > [@](#): > > And then, when reached for comment about Deborah Ramirez’ story, Garry was one of the people who signed a statement saying, “We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett.” > [@](#): > > Today, Garry withdrew her signature from that statement which originated with Kavanaugh’s lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![Pazu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pazu/32/15522_2.png) [@Pazu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pazu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3258 "2018-09-24T22:57:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No. > > Any idea why I might draw that distinction? Oh, I have several ideas, but rather than risk besmirching your character (moreso than you have already done yourself, anyway), I’ll let you explain your reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3259 "2018-09-24T23:02:45Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > [What Happened To Brett Kavanaugh Booster Louisa Garry?](https://crooksandliars.com/2018/09/what-happened-brett-kavanaugh-booster) > [@](#): > > By now, it’s unlikely anyone has missed Brett Kavanaugh friend Louisa Garry’s ad extolling all his virtues, since the Judicial Crisis Network ran it on a near blanket basis all last week on cable networks. Well, anyone who watches TV anyway. Haven’t seen it myself, and had no idea who Louisa Garry was until a few hours ago. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3260 "2018-09-24T23:16:11Z")
So far in the interview Kav seems scripted. He needs to pick up his game before Thursday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=162) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=164)