# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3281 "2018-09-25T01:45:14Z")

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So if John Hughes was to make a movie about Kavanaugh’s Georgetown Prep days, try as I may, I’m struggling to see him in any other role except your classic one-dimensional jock villain. And not even a handsome jock villain with teeth actually befitting his socioeconomic situation. In every scene, he’d be cliqued up with all his football buddies in letterman jackets, throwing back beers and gaffawing at mean-spirited inside jokes. Like the Renate thing. If 80’s movies tell us anything, they probably came up with a song to go along with it too.

Y’all know I’m right!

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3282 "2018-09-25T01:48:52Z")

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Don’t forget the popped-up collar. All 1980s villains had that.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3283 "2018-09-25T01:49:22Z")

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As I said, never hire a graduate from Georgetown Prep. They’re clearly a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3284 "2018-09-25T01:54:30Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Kavanaugh is going to get nominated.

What the heck are you talking about? He’s already been nominated. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3285 "2018-09-25T01:55:12Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> What the heck are you talking about? He’s already been nominated. :dubious:

Confirmed.

Fairly ridiculed, sir.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3286 "2018-09-25T01:55:45Z")

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The other way to play him would be the hanger on, wannabe, of the “in” jocks, trying to earn their respect by taking their “dares”. A lesser and more pathetic character than the true villain of the film.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3287 "2018-09-25T01:58:54Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> So if John Hughes was to make a movie about Kavanaugh’s Georgetown Prep days, try as I may, I’m struggling to see him in any other role except your classic one-dimensional jock villain. And not even a handsome jock villain with teeth actually befitting his socioeconomic situation. In every scene, he’d be cliqued up with all his football buddies in letterman jackets, throwing back beers and gaffawing at mean-spirited inside jokes. Like the Renate thing. If 80’s movies tell us anything, they probably came up with a song to go along with it too.
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> Y’all know I’m right!

Wasn’t it already made and called Porky’s? 🙂

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3288 "2018-09-25T02:01:29Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Don’t forget the popped-up collar. All 1980s villains had that.

Popped up collar doesn’t really go with the letterman jacket, though. Can both co-exist in the same outfit? I only see the Kav wearing the latter. Maybe I’m overthinking things.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3289 "2018-09-25T02:07:17Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> [Michael Avenatti promises new Brett Kavanaugh accuser will go public in TV interview in next 48 hours](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/michael-avenatti-promises-new-brett-kavanaugh-accuser-will-go-public-tv-interview-next-48-hours/#.W6lC8LNN2uI.twitter)
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> If the folks on team Kavanaugh don’t fear Michael Avenatti they are simply not very good at allocating their fears.
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> Recall the Stormy Daniels matter. It started out with Cohen threatening to sue her and bragging about the vacation he was going to take on her dime. It ended with Stormy released from the NDA while keeping $130k, Cohen pleading guilty, and Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.
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> I would be wary of tangling with Michael Avenatti.

So I assume we will be hearing about Kavanaugh and Judge suing Avenatti for defamation of character in the next couple days. Right? Of course, that would involve lawyers and depositions. But if there’s nothing to find, they should get right on that.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3290 "2018-09-25T02:10:34Z")

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Can we just say, how are the predictions that further investigations of Kavanaugh would be pointless because nothing new would be discovered, how are those predictions looking?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3291 "2018-09-25T02:11:23Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Popped up collar doesn’t really go with the letterman jacket, though. Can both co-exist in the same outfit? I only see the Kav wearing the latter. Maybe I’m overthinking things.

His collars were popped up underneath his letterman jacket.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3292 "2018-09-25T02:12:39Z")

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If these allegations are all invented from whole cloth, then why did the accusations only arise to the second nominee? Gorsuch literally went to the same fucking high school as Kavanaugh and not a single allegation like this about him. Probably because, while an illegitimate justice, he wasn’t rapey.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3293 "2018-09-25T02:12:46Z")

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Let’s count the votes **asahi**.

This clearly gives the red state Dems enough to vote against. I don’t see any D votes to confirm unless Ford comes off as completely non-credible. You think otherwise?

IF all D’s vote no that means just one R needs to go no. Collins, Murkowski, Flake? Hell Deb Fischer? Her seat is safe even if the base gets pissed. She could afford to vote against sexual assault and not have to deal with any blowback from the base for six years. Okay probably not but of the other three will _all_ stay in line when the general public is clearly believing her more than him?

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3294 "2018-09-25T02:19:10Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> His collars were popped up underneath his letterman jacket.

If true, this dude is worse than I thought.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3295 "2018-09-25T02:27:01Z")

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Okay, interesting. One would expect that most R’s would be at least posting something of some support of Kavanaugh and the unfairness of the Ds in their twitter feeds. Nothing about it in [Deb Fischer](https://twitter.com/SenatorFischer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)’s at all. To me that is a dog that has not barked. A curious thing.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3296 "2018-09-25T02:31:22Z")

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Let me throw out another couple possible, but unlikely, no votes on Kavanaugh.

Cory Gardener - Deborah Ramirez lives in Boulder and cardboard Cory is up for reelection in 2020 in a state that’s a fairly bluish purple.

Rand Paul - Legendary contrarian dickhead.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3297 "2018-09-25T02:34:01Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Does anyone think that GOP operatives aren’t combing through the high school and college histories of Kagan and Sotomayor?

They certainly did during their own hearings, helped by having their entire lifes’ documentation available.

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> Maybe even RBG, but I doubt anyone remembers her at any keggers back in the day.

I must assume you’re not aware of her own history of being sexually harassed.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3298 "2018-09-25T02:34:31Z")

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I would think Collins would be the no vote on the R side, if there is going to be one. She’s expressed interest in hearing out the 2nd accuser, suggesting she is at least trying to act like her mind isn’t made up already.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3299 "2018-09-25T02:34:43Z")

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Ford still stalling:

> **[Hearing in Doubt? Christine Ford’s Lawyer Rips Senate Plan to Have Prosecutor...](https://www.mediaite.com/online/hearing-in-doubt-christine-fords-lawyer-rips-senate-plan-to-have-prosecutor-ask-questions-not-fair-and-respectful/)**
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> Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's legal team has sent a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee amid continuous negotiations ahead of Thursday's scheduled hearing.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3300 "2018-09-25T02:42:37Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Ford still stalling:
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> [Hearing in Doubt? Christine Ford’s Lawyer Rips Senate Plan to Have Prosecutor Ask Questions: Not ‘Fair and Respectful’](https://www.mediaite.com/online/hearing-in-doubt-christine-fords-lawyer-rips-senate-plan-to-have-prosecutor-ask-questions-not-fair-and-respectful/)

That’s not stalling. That’s calling Grassley et. al. out as the cowards they are.

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