# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3701 "2018-09-26T14:58:18Z")

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> [@Modesty\_Blaise](#):
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> Bolding mine.
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> HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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> \*Democrats \*playing dirty tricks! :smack:
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> Sometimes there just aren’t enough eyerolls.

Eyeroll all you want, but if you think the Democratic party is pure as the driven snow, you’re delusional.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3702 "2018-09-26T14:58:28Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It means he’s lying about his drinking habits (and will probably lie about them tomorrow).

This is is, of course, the crux of it.

He got black out drunk, a lot, back in in his college days. That’s been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but that is not disqualifying.

What is disqualifying is his lying about it. He arranged to go on TV two days ago in order to lie about it. This is part of his his habit of lying his way through the confirmation process both today and in the past. He lies first and hopes that by the time anyone calls him on it, it’s do late to do anything about it. I don’t understand how anyone still supports him.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3703 "2018-09-26T14:59:59Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> Eyeroll all you want, but if you think the Democratic party is pure as the driven snow, you’re delusional.

I can’t imagine how upset you must have been by how the GOP treated Merrick Garland.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3704 "2018-09-26T15:02:50Z")

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Breaking: Here comes the Avenatti stuff.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3705 "2018-09-26T15:05:03Z")

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Aaand Avenatti just dropped an sword declaration by Julie Swetnick that, taken on its face, is absolutely damning.

Your move, GOP.

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3706 "2018-09-26T15:09:18Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I can’t imagine how upset you must have been by how the GOP treated Merrick Garland.

They did set a bad precedent. One that I’m sure is going to bite them in the ass one day. Like the nuclear option bit democrats in the ass.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3707 "2018-09-26T15:09:55Z")

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[Renato Mariotti tweet](https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1044961522756321280)

It contains Julie Swetnick’s declaration.

Note: There are two pages in the initial Tweet and a third page in the comment thread. Don’t miss that third page.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3708 "2018-09-26T15:15:55Z")

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Avenatti client:

“I witnessed Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh drink excessively and engage in highly inappropriate conduct, including being overly aggressive with girls and not taking ‘No’ for an answer. This conduct included the fondling and grabbing of girls without their consent,” Swetnick writes.

“I also witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be ‘gang raped’ in a side room or bedroom by a ‘train’ of numerous boys … These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh … In approximately 1982, I became the victim of one of these ‘gang’ or ‘train’ rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present,” she added.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3709 "2018-09-26T15:24:22Z")

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Trump has sent more rapists than Mexico

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**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3710 "2018-09-26T15:28:34Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> Eyeroll all you want, but if you think the Democratic party is pure as the driven snow, you’re delusional.

Dems have PLENTY of faults. But the Republican party wrote the book (and continue to rewrite the rule book every damn day) on dirty tricks.

Calling out Democrats for dirty tricks, by a republican is just, stunning and very, very funny. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3711 "2018-09-26T15:32:20Z")

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> [@Modesty\_Blaise](#):
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> Dems have PLENTY of faults. But the Republican party wrote the book (and continue to rewrite the rule book every damn day) on dirty tricks.
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> Calling out Democrats for dirty tricks, by a republican is just, stunning and very, very funny. 😃

I’m not “calling out” anybody. I’m fully cognizant that both sides play dirty tricks, and that this has been going on since, literally, the beginning of US politics.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3712 "2018-09-26T15:33:09Z")

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> [@Modesty\_Blaise](#):
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> Dems have PLENTY of faults. But the Republican party wrote the book (and continue to rewrite the rule book every damn day) on dirty tricks.
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> Calling out Democrats for dirty tricks, by a republican is just, stunning and very, very funny. 😃

But without false equivalencies how on earth would they have equivalencies at all?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3713 "2018-09-26T15:41:23Z")

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I think the Republicans should go ahead with that hearing tomorrow as if nothing had happened.

Just so everybody knows who they are and what they’re about.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3714 "2018-09-26T15:44:20Z")

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That minute Trump spent with Stormy is yet again costing him big time since Stormy brought us Avenatti.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3715 "2018-09-26T15:44:26Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I think the Republicans should go ahead with that hearing tomorrow as if nothing had happened.
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> Just so everybody knows who they are and what they’re about.

I’m pretty sure you will get your wish.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3716 "2018-09-26T15:47:44Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I think the Republicans should go ahead with that hearing tomorrow as if nothing had happened.
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> Just so everybody knows who they are and what they’re about.

Everyone knows who they are, what’s troubling is how many people are ok with it.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3717 "2018-09-26T15:49:22Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Everyone knows who they are, what’s troubling is how many people are ok with it.

What did Avenatti release? There was an Affidavit and that’s it from what I have seen. Any addition documents, recordings etc?  
Might be the mousetrap which gets Kavanaugh.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3718 "2018-09-26T15:52:58Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> What did Avenatti release? There was an Affidavit and that’s it from what I have seen. Any addition documents, recordings etc?  
> Might be the mousetrap which gets Kavanaugh.

He released a letter to Grasley aide (Davis). He released a 3 page statement (unclear from a quick reading if it’s an affidavit) from his client. That’s all so far.

The statement references other witnesses, but does not name them.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3719 "2018-09-26T15:58:13Z")

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> [@CoolHandCox](#):
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> He released a letter to Grasley aide (Davis). He released a 3 page statement (unclear from a quick reading if it’s an affidavit) from his client.

It’s a sworn declaration. Same effect as an affidavit.

I’m wondering what Grasley (and the others) thought they’d achieve by ignoring this. Must be pretty glum over there this week.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3720 "2018-09-26T16:00:35Z")

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It’s not under oath (from say a notary), that’s why i’m hesitating whether it would be under penalty of perjury - even though the statement says it’s under penalty of perjury. it’s missing key things I would expect to see, but I’m not an expert.

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