# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 213
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4241 "2018-09-27T20:14:18Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > … Leland Keyser. All she said was she had no recollection of that party, which is hardly surprising or revelatory. That’s not “all” she said. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4242 "2018-09-27T20:14:31Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Yes, but this is not a case where anything is “known”. If you assume a priori that Kavanaugh is innocent, then of course the accusations are implausible. But if you’re not making that assumption…well, then I’m not sure what your point is. You said “it doesn’t matter if he’s guilty or not”. Did you mean “it doesn’t matter if you think he might be guilty or you think he might not be”? Because what you said was a hypothetical, and not “this case”. Would you like to argue about what the meaning of “if” or “is” is? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4243 "2018-09-27T20:15:08Z")
Pee break! Lol ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4244 "2018-09-27T20:15:40Z")
> [@XT](#): > > ETA: That said, the crying thingy demonstrates, to me, that he is again not a viable candidate. You’ve got to have a MUCH thicker skin to be on the USSC, IMHO (or even in the rough and tumble US political system), and have to be much more in control of yourself and your emotions. He has been an Appeals Court Judge for 12 years, on the most influential Circuit. Before that he worked in the WH. You think he does not have a thick skin? I am pretty sure this is purposeful. The right wing seems to love it and he know that he need them not liberals. Or even neutrals. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4245 "2018-09-27T20:16:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Kavanaugh’s explanation of the “Renate Alumni” thing struck me as entirely bullshit. It was almost certainly juvenile misogyny and slut-shaming, IMO. Which wouldn’t be disqualifying at all – lots of teenage boys engage in juvenile misogyny and slut shaming. But why on Earth would he lie about something so mundane unless he just doesn’t have any regard for the truth? Seconded. This was clearly bullshit. It makes zero sense. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4246 "2018-09-27T20:17:03Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > She is vulnerable. He is going for it. Yea unfortunately she was awful. He completely put her on the back foot. His attempts at kill shots didn’t look good though. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4247 "2018-09-27T20:17:28Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > His emotional act, genuine or not, is starting to get really disturbing. Agreed. I had to turn it off. Wondering whether he’d announce he was withdrawing? I was afraid he was going to pull a Bud Dwyer moment. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4248 "2018-09-27T20:17:55Z")
I skipped ahead since the last time I posted. I will review the thread later. I have only cried twice since my father’s funeral: 1. When I got married again, 2. When Kavanaugh talked about his daughter praying for the “woman.” He did not do this. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4249 "2018-09-27T20:19:20Z")
He repeated the disingenuous “seniors were legal” assertion regarding the drinking age. Please, please, please grill him on this, Dems. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4250 "2018-09-27T20:20:01Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > He has been an Appeals Court Judge for 12 years, on the most influential Circuit. Before that he worked in the WH. You think he does not have a thick skin? > > I am pretty sure this is purposeful. The right wing seems to love it and he know that he need them not liberals. Or even neutrals. But he does need “neutrals”. He needs three out of four of Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker. If we assume that after this no red state Democrat is on the table. If he loses 2 Republican “moderates”, then he’s not on the Supreme Court. Or is your point that he realizes it’s game over, but he’s trying to make his loss into a base-rallying election issue? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4251 "2018-09-27T20:20:21Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Kavanaugh’s explanation of the “Renate Alumni” thing struck me as entirely bullshit. It was almost certainly juvenile misogyny and slut-shaming, IMO. Which wouldn’t be disqualifying at all – lots of teenage boys engage in juvenile misogyny and slut shaming. But why on Earth would he lie about something so mundane unless he just doesn’t have any regard for the truth? > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Seconded. This was clearly bullshit. It makes zero sense. Shit, I missed it. I heard most of his opening statement, but not that. What did he say? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4252 "2018-09-27T20:20:29Z")
John Mace, I’m not sure what you’re not understanding here. My point is that the mere existence of multiple allegations is sufficient reason to withdraw the nomination. If you’re certain he did it, you should vote against him. If you’re certain he didn’t do it, then in the absence of other reasons to vote against him, you should vote for him. If you can’t reach a certain conclusion one way or the other, you should vote against him. And I don’t see any way a reasonable person could feel certain one way or the other about this. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4253 "2018-09-27T20:20:52Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > OK, this guy is totally fucking unstable. Wow! The grimacing, sniffling, scowling is just pathological! > > ETA: Ah, he just starting yelling again in response to a question from Feinstein! His public service record long tagged him as a partisan ideologue. His performance today only confirms that he would ever be unable to set aside his animus against Democrats to rule in any impartial, fair manner. He has vividly demonstrated he possesses entirely the wrong temperament for the job for which he is interviewing. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4254 "2018-09-27T20:21:29Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I skipped ahead since the last time I posted. I will review the thread later. I have only cried twice since my father’s funeral: > > 1. When I got married again, > 2. When Kavanaugh talked about his daughter praying for the “woman.” > > He did not do this. Barf. You go on and on about how nothing he says can change the Dems’ minds. And your own mind is changed, how? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4255 "2018-09-27T20:22:00Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Seconded. This was clearly bullshit. It makes zero sense. Has anyone asked Renate what her sexual history with those boys that included “Renate alumni” in their yearbook was? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4256 "2018-09-27T20:22:16Z")
His extreme partisanship is independently disqualifying. Talking about a conspiracy on the part of the Clintons to get revenge? C’mon. What a total hack thing to believe, much less say in this context. Putting him on the Court will truly cheapen it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4257 "2018-09-27T20:23:47Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Has anyone asked Renate what her sexual history with those boys that included “Renate alumni” in their yearbook was? I think I understand why you would consider that relevant, and if I do, it’s a totally bullshit idea–but I don’t want to knock it down without understanding it first. So, why would you consider that a relevant question? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4258 "2018-09-27T20:23:59Z")
He came out attacking the Democrats and the Clintons? And this is a guy who wants to portray himself as a neutral judge? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4259 "2018-09-27T20:24:21Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I skipped ahead since the last time I posted. I will review the thread later. I have only cried twice since my father’s funeral: > > 1. When I got married again, > 2. When Kavanaugh talked about his daughter praying for the “woman.” > > He did not do this. I’m crying a little bit from laughter reading this. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4260 "2018-09-27T20:24:35Z")
Just as a complete aside, kudos to CNN for providing free access to live streaming since this morning for this. We cable-cutters really appreciate CNN doing their civic duty as a news organization! 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=212) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=214)