# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4361 "2018-09-27T21:33:44Z")

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And now Orrin Hatch says rape as a teenager is okay.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4362 "2018-09-27T21:34:05Z")

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“Porn star lawyer” has a name dumb asses.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4363 "2018-09-27T21:34:20Z")

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“Don’t recall,” is him acknowledging to his friend that he was black out drunk.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4364 "2018-09-27T21:34:56Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t know that the has, but if he did, he shouldn’t have. Can you offer some examples where he suggested how the committee should run its business?

He said the hearings were revenge for the Clintons and that they were being held so that the Democrats could get him.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4365 "2018-09-27T21:34:59Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> He was crying as he mused about what he had written on his calendar earlier.
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> No, seriously, it’s quite likely he meant that he was drunk, but it’s not a slam dunk. He did not “admit to being blackout drunk”, and if you really think so, the Democrats would have brought that up.

On the digression here, pretty much this. For that matter, he might be saying he doesn’t recall, even if he did, because he was embarrassed. Basically telling a little white lie to his buds that they can all pretend to believe in order to skip past him being an asshole at some point. There is a lot of this inference stuff happening in this thread, with a lot of long chains of logic revolving around shaky ‘facts’ and then moving from there.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4366 "2018-09-27T21:35:41Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> It doesn’t need to.
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> The simplest explanation that fits the facts, and the only explanation offered thus far, is black out drunk.

Could have been any number of things! Smacked with a baseball bat, a seizure, a stroke…early onset Alzheimer’s!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4367 "2018-09-27T21:36:57Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> “Porn star lawyer” has a name dumb asses.

Shame on Avenatti for associating himself with the kind of people the president has sex with!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4368 "2018-09-27T21:36:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> He said the hearings were revenge for the Clintons and that they were being held so that the Democrats could get him.

That’s a criticism of the motives of the Democrats, not a suggestion about how the committee should conduct its business.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4369 "2018-09-27T21:37:18Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> He’s been highly criticial of Feinstein and the Democrats in how they’ve handled this process.

And he hasn’t hesitated to interrupt them and try to be the one questioning _them_.

Which is a technique that can actually work pretty well if it’s clear that you’ve got a hell of a lot more of a clue than your questioners do. However…

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4370 "2018-09-27T21:38:19Z")

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He continues to say that Judge, etc. say the event never happened, I think they’ve said they don’t remember.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4371 "2018-09-27T21:40:34Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> He’s been highly criticial of Feinstein and the Democrats in how they’ve handled this process.

Sorry, what I meant by “offer examples” was: can you quote something he said. Specifically, something where he has made a suggestion about how the committee should conduct its business. I’m sure you can offer an opinion or a paraphrase that supports your claim. I’d like to see actual quotes of things he said.

ETA: OK, never mind. He just said that he asked for a hearing a few days after the allegation was made.

So, I’m still going to say he should have been more prepared to answer the way I suggested, and that includes not making suggestions like he did.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4372 "2018-09-27T21:40:54Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> It’s irrelevant what I think the likely explanation is. My point is that “he acknowledged in an email being blackout drunk” is absolutely false. If we can’t agree on such an obvious fact, then it’s a sad day on the Dope indeed.

Yes, we can agree on that. Can we also agree that him being blackout drunk seems like by far the most likely explanation for what he said?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4373 "2018-09-27T21:42:13Z")

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Funny how the Chairman gets to talk whenever he wants but everybody else gets 5 minutes.  
Also, the Republicans just keep conveniently forgetting about Merrick Garland.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4374 "2018-09-27T21:42:38Z")

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They were drunk.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4375 "2018-09-27T21:44:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Sorry, what I meant by “offer examples” was: can you quote something he said. Specifically, something where he has made a suggestion about how the committee should conduct its business. I’m sure you can offer an opinion or a paraphrase that supports your claim. I’d like to see actual quotes of things he said.
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> OK, nevermind. He just said that he asked for a hearing a few days after the allegation was made.
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> So, I’m still going to say he should have been more prepared to answer the way I suggested, and that includes not making suggestions like he did.

I’m watching it on TV, not reading from a transcript. If you haven’t noticed him criticizing the way the Democrats have behaved in this process, then we’re watching different things.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4376 "2018-09-27T21:44:14Z")

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"I can’t begin to comprehend what goes through the minds of 17-year-old boys who write such things, but the insinuation is horrible, hurtful and simply untrue. I pray their daughters are never treated this way. I will have no further comment.” - Renate Dolphin

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4377 "2018-09-27T21:44:25Z")

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Brilliant opinion piece from the Washington Post about the hearing;

[HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO BRETT KAVANAUGH?](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/27/how-dare-you-do-this-to-brett-kavanaugh/?utm_term=.b7c8cac94a26)

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> Listen, NO, YOU listen!  
> Do you know who Brett Kavanaugh is? Brett Kavanaugh went to Georgetown Prep!  
> BRETT KAVANAUGH IS AN OPTIMIST WHO LOOKS ON THE SUNSHINE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN!  
> BRETT KAVANAUGH IS NOT YELLING!  
> YOU’RE YELLING!
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> If Brett does not secure a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court, this country will be IN SHAMBLES! THIS IS HIS BIRTHRIGHT! Do you know how embarrassing it is for a Georgetown Prep graduate to NOT be on the Supreme Court? They are literally 12 PERCENT of the court! THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST INDIGNITY YOU CAN INFLICT ON A HUMAN BEING!..
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> The Founders did not break from Britain so a landed white gentleman accused of sexual misconduct could NOT be given FREE REIN over the lives of millions!

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4378 "2018-09-27T21:45:04Z")

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Democratic performance is abysmal, save perhaps Durbin. Why aren’t they bringing up the other accusers (at least the second one)? Why aren’t they asking about Mark Judge’s girlfriend’s claims that Judge admitted assaulting someone? Why are they letting him get away with saying the FBI doesn’t draw conclusions? Does he mean that prosecutors dont need detectives? If I didn’t know better I’d think the Dems were Pub moles.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4379 "2018-09-27T21:45:44Z")

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[Jane C. Timm](https://twitter.com/janestreet/status/1045424908745023489)

> [@](#):
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> A House of Reps IP address edits ‘Devil’s Triangle’ entry on Wikipedia to include Brett Kavanaugh’s claim that it’s a drinking game

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4380 "2018-09-27T21:45:48Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Yes, we can agree on that. Can we also agree that him being blackout drunk seems like by far the most likely explanation for what he said?

I don’t know about “by far”, but yes, it seems like a likely explanation, probably even the most likely (I can’t readily think of one that I personally consider more likely).

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