# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4661 "2018-09-28T04:50:05Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Who are the Nazis? And do you honestly think Court packing can only be done by the Dems?

One of his pals said in this thread that people need to be put in camps by the military, and he thinks its us. LOL.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4662 "2018-09-28T04:52:56Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> One of his pals said in this thread that people need to be put in camps by the military, and he thinks its us. LOL.

I don’t think all Republicans should be imprisoned - just the ones currently committing crimes against humanity. Stripping them of their citizenship should be effective for most of them.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4663 "2018-09-28T04:53:11Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> One of his pals said in this thread that people need to be put in camps by the military, and he thinks its us. LOL.

Yeah, being compared to a genocidal regime is nice isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4664 "2018-09-28T04:55:02Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yeah, being compared to a genocidal regime is nice isn’t it?

Maybe cut it out with the white supremacy and totalitarianism then.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4665 "2018-09-28T04:56:47Z")

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I think K blew it up and the Rs went on a rampage. I think they know they lost a couple votes, and they couldn’t get out of the hate mindset for one minute, and all had to have revenge speeches especially the one who is nominated, a disgrace. I predict it’s thumbs down.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4666 "2018-09-28T05:01:22Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> What terms are you offering?

I don’t know, hadn’t decided yet. In 2006, the US population was 298.4 million (according to Google) and the D’s got 42,338,795. Today the population is estimated to be [328.7 million](https://www.census.gov/popclock/). If I’m doing maths right, that’s just over 10% growth. Let’s round it off at 10%. 42,338,795 + 10% = 46,572,674. How about, if the D’s get more than 47 million votes, I’ll donate $10 to a tax-deductible charity of your choice, in whatever (reasonable - I’m not wearing a chicken costume and flying to Puerto Rico or anything crazy like that) manner you choose, and an additional $10 for every million votes above that (48M = $20, 49M = $30, 50M=$40, etc). Conversely, if the D’s don’t get more than 46 million votes, you donate $10 to a charity of my choosing, in a (reasonable) way I choose. For every million votes below that, you donate an additional $10. Agreed?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4667 "2018-09-28T05:02:27Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> So how many D votes in the HoR in November? 42 million? 52 million? 62 million? Are YOU willing to put any money behind your answer?

The fact the ONLY way you could respond to what I was saying is to reduce it to a wager on the vote in the midterms illustrates the point I was making - the GOP demonstrated today that they have absolutely no clue how thoroughly done most women are with the bullshit and games. Clearly, _none_ of them realize how many women they care about have likely been subjected to sexual harassment, leers, unwelcome sexual comments and even some form of groping or assault.

It is far, far more common than they realize. And it will bite them in the ass. Soon.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4668 "2018-09-28T05:02:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I don’t think all Republicans should be imprisoned - just the ones currently committing crimes against humanity. Stripping them of their citizenship should be effective for most of them.

Now I understand why you didn’t make a peep of protest about the “camps” post.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4669 "2018-09-28T05:03:44Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> The fact the ONLY way you could respond to what I was saying is to reduce it to a wager on the vote in the midterms illustrates the point I was making - the GOP demonstrated today that they have absolutely how thoroughly they are done with the bullshit and games. Clearly, _none_ of them realize how many women they care about have likely been subjected to sexual harassment, leers, unwelcome sexual comments and even some form of groping or assault.
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> It is far, far more common than they realize. And it will bite them in the ass. Soon.

By soon, do you mean sometime other than the 2018 midterms then?

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4670 "2018-09-28T05:03:59Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> **Thing Fish** , you and I may read this the same way.
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> I was heartened by the Flake/Collins/Murkowski/Manchin private meeting tonight. I expect Flake is going to vote to allow the matter to go to a vote on the floor, but hope the 4 of them together will oppose the nomination. Manchin is pretty safe, and that will give cover to Heitkamp and McCaskill to vote for the wingnut if needed to save their seats in the mid-term.
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> Razor thin, but enough.

Wow, I had not heard of that meeting. I had thought that all the Dems would feel safe voting against him after today’s performance, and that it would be down to Collins and Murkowski. So the fact that Flake was even in that meeting is somewhat encouraging.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4671 "2018-09-28T05:04:23Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Now I understand why you didn’t make a peep of protest about the “camps” post.

Your ilk seem perfectly OK with putting certain types of people in camps, don’t you now?

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4672 "2018-09-28T05:05:02Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> It sounds _EXACTLY_ like a Stalinist. I’m disappointed so many of his fellow-travelers let it go by without even a comment.

:rolleyes:  
Letitbenotedfortherecordthatcomradeasahigetsalittlecarriedawaysometimesandreeducationcampsarebadmmkay?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4673 "2018-09-28T05:06:12Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> By soon, do you mean sometime other than the 2018 midterms then?

Again, point spectacularly missed.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4674 "2018-09-28T05:09:30Z")

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Uh. Also, let it be noted that Republicans, at least the vast majority of them, are not, in fact, Nazis. They are arguably fascists, but these terms are not interchangable.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4675 "2018-09-28T05:11:00Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> You couldn’t find a paintbrush any wider if you tried.

…no wider than the post I was responding too.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4676 "2018-09-28T05:12:03Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Uh. Also, let it be noted that Republicans, at least the vast majority of them, are not, in fact, Nazis. They are arguably fascists, but these terms are not interchangable.

Their ostensible leader is a white supremacist revanchist who wants to be president for life and describes Nazis as “very fine people”. He’s a Nazi and they’re Nazis too if they support him.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4677 "2018-09-28T05:16:58Z")

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Well, **Thing Fish** , I give you credit for trying.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4678 "2018-09-28T05:18:06Z")

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Trump and his supporters are vile. They have not, as of yet, organized death camps or started a world war. If and when they do, we can probably afford to assign them their own distinct name to be used for historical reference. Until then, can we just call them fascist scum and leave it at that?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4679 "2018-09-28T05:20:37Z")

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[Not surprising](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh-ford/in-metoo-era-ford-lauded-on-left-and-right-as-honest-and-brave-idUSKCN1M802S).

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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Christine Blasey Ford began her testimony in front of a Senate committee by saying she was “terrified,” and at times she looked it.
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> But by the time she finished detailing her allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were teenagers, Ford was being widely praised as credible and brave.
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> …
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> She emerged in the eyes of many American women as a compelling figure in the #MeToo movement that is usually associated less with the names of victims and more with a list of high-profile men accused of misconduct.
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> …
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> Three political scientists who specialize in voting behavior and political psychology told Reuters they expected Ford’s testimony to galvanize female Democratic voters to vote in November.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4680 "2018-09-28T05:21:53Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I’ll bet John Roberts called them and begged.
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> \<channeling Bill Maher\> I don’t know it for a fact. I just know it’s true.\</channeling Bill Maher\>

I would like to think that all eight justices (well, maybe seven) were horrified at Kavanaugh’s performance today. I can’t imagine they will be particularly thrilled having to work with him.

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