# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 236
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4701 "2018-09-28T06:07:46Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > … But they did initially endorse Kavanaugh, right? … I haven’t checked to see, but I assume from Smapti’s use of “rescinded its endorsement” that they did at some point. [Newspaper endorsements ain’t what they used to be](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4702 "2018-09-28T06:11:20Z")
The Constitution is a lot shorter than the Bible, so I wonder…say, on a word by word basis…which one has been more enthusiastically plundered by scoundrels. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4703 "2018-09-28T06:15:24Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I haven’t checked to see, but I assume from Smapti’s use of “rescinded its endorsement” that they did at some point. The article I linked links to [their original endorsement.](https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/07/09/editors-anyone-who-recognizes-humanity-unborn-should-support-nomination) ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4704 "2018-09-28T06:24:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The article I linked links to [their original endorsement.](https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/07/09/editors-anyone-who-recognizes-humanity-unborn-should-support-nomination) See, I never doubted you and my faith has been rewarded. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4705 "2018-09-28T06:26:14Z")
What’s with all the sniffing? Cocaine use? That constant weird sniffing didn’t look like anything normal. It didn’t look like a cold. There were a few times when he seemed close to tears, but the sniffing was ongoing even during routine questions. Is he a regular user? Did he sniff a few lines before the hearing? Related: Does this guy have the temperament to be a Supreme Court judge - or any kind of judge at all? He came across as angry, aggressive, and unbalanced. Supporters will say that he was being attacked unfairly, but is this how a decent, innocent, serious guy with a judicial temperament deals with attacks? This was basically the most serious job interview of his life, in front of the whole of America, and he was (presumably) sober. What would he have been like as a wild teenager after a few beers on a Saturday night? If you were in court for a parking ticket, would you want this guy to be the judge? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4706 "2018-09-28T06:27:44Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > What’s with all the sniffing? Cocaine use? > > That constant weird sniffing didn’t look like anything normal. It didn’t look like a cold. There were a few times when he seemed close to tears, but the sniffing was ongoing even during routine questions. Is he a regular user? Did he sniff a few lines before the hearing? … Really? We’re recycling the same conspiracy theories used against President Trump during the campaign again? C’mon now, at least try to be original. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4707 "2018-09-28T06:41:21Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Really? We’re recycling the same conspiracy theories used against President Trump during the campaign again? C’mon now, at least try to be original. Do you know what’s meant by the term ‘conspiracy theory’? All I can say, as an outsider looking on, is that the sniffing looked pretty weird to me. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4708 "2018-09-28T06:46:01Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > Do you know what’s meant by the term ‘conspiracy theory’? > > All I can say, as an outsider looking on, is that the sniffing looked pretty weird to me. Well, at least you’ve got company with your wild theories: > [@\*\*\*Join the SDMB panel of experts for live debate coverage - 9/26/2016\*\*\*](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/join-the-sdmb-panel-of-experts-for-live-debate-coverage-9-26-2016/766946/100): > > Did Mr. Trump do a bunch of cocaine tonight? He’s sniffing like it. He’s aggressively rambling like it. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4709 "2018-09-28T06:48:19Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I mean, the way he turned the tables on Sen Feinstein! And he sure showed that Klobuchar woman a thing or two! Snap! A mind like a steel trout! Yeah he did. So? It was to be expected and seemed to have been his teams strategy. Feinstein was the weak point of the opposition while Klobucher (sp?) seemed the most competant, the exchange seemd designed to run out the clock. > [@](#): > > And all with that calm and even tempered assurance one _expects_ from a judge! So that he says “The defendant will rise” and you feel privileged to oblige. And he just charmed the pants off American women! So to speak. One of the articles I read did make this rather wry observations that post Kavanaughs appearance Conservatives are speaking about the need for men to express their feelings and emotions while liberals have suddenly discovered the value of male stoicism. (FTR, he is an Appellate judge and if confirmed would go the an Appellate Court, he would not deal with defendants). ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4710 "2018-09-28T07:23:59Z")
There’s no way to know (yet) if this is true or just bluffing, but … [Townhall - BREAKING: We Have The Votes](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/27/breaking-we-have-the-votes-n2523402) (note that the “we” here probably excludes most of you) > [@](#): > > With the Senate Judiciary Committee holding a vote at 9:30 A.M. tomorrow, a Senate insider has told Townhall that Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and the votes to be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. Sens. Flake (R-AZ), Collins (R-ME), Murkowski (R-AK), and Manchin (D-WV) are expected to vote in favor of Kavanaugh. All the Republicans are voting yes. Also, in the rumor mill, several Democrats may break ranks and back Kavanaugh. That’s the ball game, folks. … ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4711 "2018-09-28T07:37:10Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > There’s no way to know (yet) if this is true or just bluffing, but … If it is, then _fuck you, Manchin, you closet Nazi, you deserve to lose your reelection_. The only thing worse than a Nazi is a coward who’ll vote for a Nazi because he’s afraid of losing his job. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4712 "2018-09-28T07:37:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If it is, then _fuck you, Manchin, you closet Nazi, you deserve to lose your reelection_. Another point of agreement between us 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4713 "2018-09-28T07:42:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > “America’s only nationwide Catholic weekly” seems to have a rather left-wing bent to their reporting. The post says they rescinded their endorsement. Would you say that when they originally endorsed him that they were just biased? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4714 "2018-09-28T08:29:34Z")
IMHO The accusations against Kavanaugh simply don’t hold water. If this thing kept happening, why did she keep attending the parties? Why were there no other witnesses? Why were there no other victims? I find it difficult to believe that not one victim went to the police. And why wait to now? We have a man accused of being party (ahem) to mass gang rape who has been investigated multiple times before earlier appointments and this has never surfaced? Sorry but the accusations don’t add up. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4715 "2018-09-28T09:07:49Z")
> **[American Bar Association: Delay Kavanaugh until FBI investigates assault...](https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/09/27/politics/kavanaugh-american-bar-association/index.html)** > > The American Bar Association is calling on the Senate Judiciary Committee to halt the consideration of President Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh until an FBI investigation is completed into the sexual assault allegations that... The ABA now advocates a delay until these allegations are fully investigated. I doubt it makes a difference. And confirming Kavanaugh would probably help the Democrats for the midterms. But I’m still hopeful that there might be a pair of Republican senators with a shred of human decency. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4716 "2018-09-28T09:12:41Z")
> **[A Republican Yale drinking buddy of Kavanaugh's tells CNN he lied to the...](https://theweek.com/speedreads/798739/republican-yale-drinking-buddy-kavanaughs-tells-cnn-lied-senate-judiciary-committee)** A Republican friend and supporter of Kavanaugh says he lied to the committee about his drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4717 "2018-09-28T09:20:07Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [A Republican Yale drinking buddy of Kavanaugh's tells CNN he lied to the Senate Judiciary Committee | The Week](http://theweek.com/speedreads/798739/republican-yale-drinking-buddy-kavanaughs-tells-cnn-lied-senate-judiciary-committee) > > A Republican friend and supporter of Kavanaugh says he lied to the committee about his drinking. And wow! Look at the article directly under that: > [@](#): > > Catholic magazine un-endorses Brett Kavanaugh, American Bar Association demands an FBI investigation Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4718 "2018-09-28T09:23:11Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > IMHO The accusations against Kavanaugh simply don’t hold water. If this thing kept happening, why did she keep attending the parties? Why were there no other witnesses? Why were there no other victims? I find it difficult to believe that not one victim went to the police. And why wait to now? > > We have a man accused of being party (ahem) to mass gang rape who has been investigated multiple times before earlier appointments and this has never surfaced? > > Sorry but the accusations don’t add up. Have you not read the previous 94 pages of this thread? Or listened to the testimony? Or read _literally anything_ that has happened in the news since the Weinstein allegations broke? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4719 "2018-09-28T09:33:13Z")
Missed edit window - We live in a society where men, _especially_ Old Money white men, have been raised to believe they can do what they want to women with impunity, and where women have been taught that there’s no point in coming forward because nothing will come of it, nobody will believe you, you’ll be ridiculed and told you deserved it or were asking for it or you’re making it up just for attention, and other white men online will post your home address and your family’s information and make death threats towards you for daring to tell your story. If _you_ were a woman in that situation, would you be so cocksure about coming forward with your story? As a white cisgender straight man who has most (but not all) of the privilege that comes with being born into this cultural clique, I doubt that I would. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4720 "2018-09-28T10:40:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Have you not read the previous 94 pages of this thread? Have you? It’s - of course - possible that I’ve missed something, but there’s a whole lot of what can at best be called wishful thinking. > [@](#): > > Or listened to the testimony? I’ve read it, and in the word of Dopers everywhere, “Cite?” There is absolutely no evidence for the allegations. For starters, you haven’t addressed any of the points I’ve raised. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=235) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=237)