# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 245
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4881 "2018-09-28T17:27:16Z")
This is the final event in a series of events over the last two years that, besides making me leave the Republican party, leave me thinking our Constitution is a shit document, and make me genuinely ashamed to be an American. If only Norway wasn’t so cold. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4882 "2018-09-28T17:27:59Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > One more dishonest Kavanaugh tactic that bears mentioning: > > They dug up some random Twitter user’s insane ramblings and interviewed Kavanaugh about it even though no one else had raised it. Then Kavanaugh used that as proof that the Senate Democrats were conspiring against him. It was a total lie. [Nutpicking](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nutpicking), not only for internet illogical ponderings, but also good for congress critters. /s ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4883 "2018-09-28T17:31:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Guilty as charged. (I like dogs, too, and have a dog.) > > Yup. But who will buy this? About half of your neighbors, co-workers and relatives. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4884 "2018-09-28T17:36:26Z")
Senator Flake walked out to talk with Democrats minutes before the Judiciary Committee was going to vote up or down on Kavanaugh. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4885 "2018-09-28T17:39:04Z")
Flake likes to talk tough, but now that he has a chance to really do something of import and prevent decades of harm… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4886 "2018-09-28T17:40:32Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Senator Flake walked out to talk with Democrats minutes before the Judiciary Committee was going to vote up or down on Kavanaugh. I’m not gonna let the Flake/Collins/Murkowski triumverate suck me into a vortex of false optimism this time. They’re gonna vote to confirm, or at least two of them will, and that’s all they’ll need. I hope they’ll prove me wrong, but I highly, highly doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4887 "2018-09-28T17:41:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m not gonna let the Flake/Collins/Murkowski triumverate suck me into a vortex of false hope this time. They’re gonna vote to confirm, or at least two of them will, and that’s all they’ll need. I stopped having any sort of hope for this country doing the right thing about two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4888 "2018-09-28T17:42:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m not gonna let the Flake/Collins/Murkowski triumverate suck me into a vortex of false optimism this time. They’re gonna vote to confirm, or at least two of them will, and that’s all they’ll need. I hope they’ll prove me wrong, but I highly, highly doubt it. I think he can still vote yes, but not right now. That’s probably the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4889 "2018-09-28T17:44:53Z")
A friend of mine linked to this [blog post](https://crooksandliars.com/2018/09/dont-kid-yourself-gop-knows-kavanaugh) that makes the argument that Kavanaugh is guilty because he already knew Ford’s identity before it was public (shown by Whelan’s doppleganger theory being aired too early) and that the GOP was already trying so hard to get ahead of it. Thoughts? I didn’t see any smoking gun (as it could be the GOP just wanted to get ahead of it no matter what because he’s their nominee sink or swim, regardless of guilt) but interesting nonetheless. I know a lot of people were a bit surprised the Dems didn’t bring up the doppleganger theory at all yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4890 "2018-09-28T17:50:18Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Senator Flake walked out to talk with Democrats minutes before the Judiciary Committee was going to vote up or down on Kavanaugh. What’s amazing is that one sexual assault victim, who excoriated Flake in the elevator, could actually have changed his mind and may singlehandedly keep Kavanaugh off the SC. God that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4891 "2018-09-28T17:52:06Z")
Ken Dilanian (NBC reporter) on twitter: Serious discussions underway to delay the vote and allow the FBI to investigate. > The false-optimism vortex is trying its hardest to suck me in… ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4892 "2018-09-28T17:52:10Z")
Flake calls for a delay of one week ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4893 "2018-09-28T17:52:25Z")
Woohoo Flake caves! Of course the Republicans don’t quite appreciate yet that he could be saving them in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4894 "2018-09-28T17:53:22Z")
LINK??? ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4895 "2018-09-28T17:55:33Z")
I’m so confused. Does Flake’s motion not get a vote? ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4896 "2018-09-28T17:55:42Z")
It looks like they just now voted 11-10 to recommend Kavanaugh. That’s done. They are now going to vote on a motion to delay the floor vote one week to let the FBI investigate, assuming this committee has the power. Regardless, it’s a powerful statement. Flake’s basically saying he could vote No on the floor without this FBI investigation. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4897 "2018-09-28T17:55:57Z")
OMG JEFF FLAKE: > [@](#): > > MASSIVE NEWS. BREAKING NOW @JeffFlake says: “I think it would be proper to delay the floor vote for up to but not more than one week to let the FBI do investigation.” > ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4898 "2018-09-28T17:56:22Z")
I’m seeing it on twitter. Flake votes yes to move Kavanaugh out of committee but has “an understanding” that the floor vote will be delayed a week to allow an FBI investigation ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4899 "2018-09-28T18:00:19Z")
it’s going to the floor. Up to McConnell to decide to wait or not. There was no motion for the FBI, because the Jud Comt does not have the power to compel the floor vote to do that. It’s a request (a “gentleman’s agreement”). But wow! And now abruptly adjourned. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/4900 "2018-09-28T18:01:39Z")
Damn you, vortex of false-optimism! Sucked in again! It’ll be a miracle if that week delay actually happens, but we can hope, and if it does, we can hope that a serious investigation is implemented, including getting Mark Judge on the record about their drinking habits and more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=244) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=246)