# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5101 "2018-09-29T01:16:50Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yep. His outbursts and inability to remain calm and cool is all I need to know about Kavanaugh to know that he is not SCOTUS material. No doubt he’s upset, no doubt this right or wrong sucks. But. Um. No fucking way. This is NOT a man I would want to share a fox hole with.

Much less a set of briefs.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5102 "2018-09-29T01:22:26Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I looked at his face and my thought was he’d been drinking. Red cheeks and nose, belligerent, sweaty, wild eyed. He looked like he had had a few for courage and gone too far.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that.

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**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5103 "2018-09-29T01:41:12Z")

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> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> An amusing tweet from [feminist next door](https://twitter.com/emrazz/status/1045102831760486401):

Amusing? No.

Chilling? Yes. Accurate? Yes. A damning indictment of the despicable state of the US justice system? Yes.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5104 "2018-09-29T01:45:03Z")

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> [@araminty](#):
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> Amusing? No.
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> Chilling? Yes. Accurate? Yes. A damning indictment of the despicable state of the US justice system? Yes.

I actually hemmed and hawed a bit over the word amusing in that post. It is definitely not the right word, but I couldn’t think of a word that accurately portrayed how I felt about it and amusing was the only thing in the ballpark.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5105 "2018-09-29T03:14:16Z")

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_Chagrin_, noun, the smile born of bitter irony.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5106 "2018-09-29T03:31:55Z")

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Kavanaugh former Yale classmate says he was lying about his drinking because she was there drinking along with him.

> **[Kavanaugh’s Yale Classmate Calls Out His ‘Blatant Lying’ at Hearing](https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/another-yale-classmate-extremely-disappointed-by-kavanaugh.html)**
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> “While at Yale, he was a big partier, often drank to excess, and there had to be a number of nights where he does not remember.”

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**Author:** ![Bruiser1036](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Bruiser1036](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruiser1036)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5107 "2018-09-29T03:54:53Z")

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No, the Demonrats will never be able to stop Brett Kavanaugh. Lindsey Graham, in his amazing speech, pretty much exposed the Democrats for their baseless, hateful allegations against Kavanaugh and his family.

Since there is a good chunk of the Democratic Party base, the cultural left, that hates religion, particularly Christianity and Christian values in particular, it makes sense to see why they are so against Kavanaugh, a devout Roman Catholic and leader of his community.

Those asshats can suck it.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5108 "2018-09-29T03:59:14Z")

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Holy mother flurking Poe’s law!

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5109 "2018-09-29T04:03:58Z")

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> [@Bruiser1036](#):
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> No, the Demonrats will never be able to stop Brett Kavanaugh. Lindsey Graham, in his amazing speech, pretty much exposed the Democrats for their baseless, hateful allegations against Kavanaugh and his family.
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> Since there is a good chunk of the Democratic Party base, the cultural left, that hates religion, particularly Christianity and Christian values in particular, it makes sense to see why they are so against Kavanaugh, a devout Roman Catholic and leader of his community.
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> Those asshats can suck it.

Following the Kavanaugh/Blasey Ford hearing on Thursday, America Magazine, a Jesuit publication, published a piece titled, “The Editors: It is time for the Kavanaugh nomination to be withdrawn.”

[https://www.dailywire.com/news/36464/jesuit-publication-retracts-kavanaugh-endorsement-frank-camp](https://www.dailywire.com/news/36464/jesuit-publication-retracts-kavanaugh-endorsement-frank-camp)

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5110 "2018-09-29T04:29:15Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> … Everyone discussing it here and in the media saw it except, apparently, you.

“Everyone”? Really?

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5111 "2018-09-29T05:01:41Z")

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This thread sure moves fast. I am way behind but I wanted to say that I think it’s possible that Senator Flake set-up the encounter with the two sexual assault survivors at the elevator in order to give him cover for:

1. Demanding an FBI investigation
2. Voting “no” in the committee
3. Voting “no” in the full Senate vote.

If this is true (and it’s pretty out there) I wouldn’t think it was slimy. I’d judge it to be merely the sort of Bizarro Kabuki needed in this political climate to allow him to vote like thinking, rational humans do.

Note: **Bizarro Kabuki** should be the name of your daughter’s next band.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5112 "2018-09-29T05:06:10Z")

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The speaker/crier in the elevator with Flake was on Anderson Cooper. She sounded sincere. But, who really knows?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5113 "2018-09-29T05:11:13Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> 1. Voting “no” in the committee

He voted “yes” in committee.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5114 "2018-09-29T05:36:12Z")

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The dog that didn’t bark in the night. I mentioned earlier that it occurred to me that one motivation for this sudden turn of events was public feedback. Like a brief mention of Lindsey Graham’s website being down "for maintenance ".

But I’ve been checking for reports and finding nothing. Which strikes me as odd, given how much whole lotta shakin’ goin’ on. At least you usually got guys on each side saying that their switchboards are humming with Americans wildly approving of whatever they just said or did. But not, apparently, this time, or maybe just not _yet_.

Could prove to be a three-pipe problem.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5115 "2018-09-29T05:45:07Z")

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I suspect a good number of the Senators have left D.C. for home.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5116 "2018-09-29T06:34:53Z")

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Personally, I think Flake is being a good guy and trying to find a sane middle path through the partisan hysteria engulfing this affair. Regardless of what happens, I think having a brief FBI investigation and a one week break before a final vote, will increase the legitimacy of the process. If Kavanaugh is ultimately confirmed, the FBI investigation will help his long-term credibility and legacy and that of the Supreme Court.

More cynically, Flake may be positioning himself for a Presidential run if the Trump presidency flames out completely and Republicans want a candidate who is solidly conservative but has maximum distance from Trump. Of course the cynical explanation does not invalidate the sincere one, it could be a combination of both and often is in such situations.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5117 "2018-09-29T10:31:30Z")

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> [@Bruiser1036](#):
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> No, the Demonrats will never be able to stop Brett Kavanaugh. Lindsey Graham, in his amazing speech, pretty much exposed the Democrats for their baseless, hateful allegations against Kavanaugh and his family.
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> Since there is a good chunk of the Democratic Party base, the cultural left, that hates religion, particularly Christianity and Christian values in particular, it makes sense to see why they are so against Kavanaugh, a devout Roman Catholic and leader of his community.
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> Those asshats can suck it.

“Demonrats?” Way to make your opinions irrelevant right out of the gate.

One important thing the week’s delay provides is time for “…polls, polls, polls, polls, polls, polls, polls…” (per a recent _[538.com](http://538.com)_ podcast). If (any non-partisan) polls are running more than a few percentage points negative re: Kavanaugh, he’s likely toast. But don’t cry; the Republicans will surely manage to ram through another conservative, probably even a devout Catholic, since that seems to be important to you.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5118 "2018-09-29T11:39:43Z")

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I’m starting to change my mind about this FBI investigation. People are coming out of the woodwork to call Kav out on his BS. This is going to make things real easy for the FBI.

This doesn’t look good for ol’ Ralpie.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5119 "2018-09-29T11:51:02Z")

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> [@Bruiser1036](#):
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> Since there is a good chunk of the Democratic Party base, the cultural left, that hates religion, particularly Christianity and Christian values in particular

Yeah, we’re talking about a guy whose judicial opinions have nearly all been on the side of the rich and powerful, to the detriment of “the least of these.” Funny Christian values, those.

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> it makes sense to see why they are so against Kavanaugh, a devout Roman Catholic and leader of his community.

I attended middle school and the beginning of high school at another prep school, also supposedly a religious school, in the same sports league as Georgetown Prep. Those years weren’t exactly the happiest years of my life, but I did learn some useful life lessons. Like: thugs in coat and tie are still thugs.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5120 "2018-09-29T11:54:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I suspect a good number of the Senators have left D.C. for home.

And thank goodness for that. At this time yesterday, it looked like they’d be in town right now, running down the procedural clock so that they could vote as soon as possible.

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