# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 299
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5962 "2018-10-04T11:52:19Z")
If there was any doubt left that Kavanaugh blatantly lied about the Renate thing in his yearbook, that doubt should be eliminated: [https://twitter.com/imbeccable/status/1047682861069942784](https://twitter.com/imbeccable/status/1047682861069942784) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5963 "2018-10-04T12:12:39Z")
School kids speak shyt. That’s “heartbreaking”? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5964 "2018-10-04T12:20:00Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > As I predicted, absolutely nothing has come from this investigation Then you’ve seen the FBI report, I take it? Please fill us in on the details. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > nor will it ever. Well, yeah, because it’s over and done with, and was gelded at birth anyway. > [@](#): > > If you are one of those four senators, what else do you want to hear? Damned if I know. His track record of lying about matters big and small is pretty well established at this point, which should disqualify him for a judgeship at any level. A week ago, he loudly endorsed a whackadoodle conspiracy theory about the Clintons, and endorsing whackadoodle conspiracy theories should also disqualify one for a judgeship at any level. He’s a mean, angry, nasty piece of work, most fully demonstrated by his Starr years, but his high school and college acquaintances have given testimony that shows a certain consistency going back from there, and of course last week he showed that that part of him is still alive and [del]well[/del] twisted. Again, not the sort of person one would want on the bench, any bench. No, I’m not sure either what else they’re looking for, what else they’d need. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5965 "2018-10-04T12:21:11Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > School kids speak shyt. That’s “heartbreaking”? School kids spoke ‘shyt’ 35 years ago. He lied about it **last week**. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5966 "2018-10-04T12:23:56Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Not only was the supplemental FBI investigation a joke (it didn’t even rise to the level of a sham), but the process by which Senators can review the resulting report is [an even bigger joke](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-mitch-mcconnell-sets-up-the-vote.html): > Yeah, that’s with debate starting tomorrow morning. Let Feinstein read it first - I’d like to hear what’s in it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5967 "2018-10-04T12:25:26Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > McConnell has called the vote. He would not do that if he was not sure he has the votes. That’s what they said about the AHCA. > [@UnwittingAmericans](#): > > Flake, Collins, Murkowski and Manchin will all vote the same way, that was their deal. IIRC the supposed deal was between Collins, Murskowski, Manchin, and **Donnelly**. But Donnelly then announced his opposition, so either the other three are playing a very bizarre game or there was actually no deal. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5968 "2018-10-04T12:27:29Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Let Feinstein read it first - I’d like to hear what’s in it. Sure, if you don’t mind waiting two months. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5969 "2018-10-04T12:36:38Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > If you notice, Flake always talks tough on Trump, but he consistently voted in lock step with Trump’s agenda. Flake is clearly saying the right things to score points during the general election as a Trump critic, but trying to preserve his radical right wing voting record so he can survive the GOP primary. This. The thing about the five undecideds is that if the three Republicans were really moderates in any meaningful sense, they could, as a group, rule the Senate. They could declare themselves independents, and change which party they caucused with in order to drive the agendas of both to a more moderate place, since each party would have a majority only when the ‘gang of five’ caucused with them. But this isn’t what the GOP undecideds are. They talk a good game of moderation to the national press, but they only rarely back up their words with votes. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5970 "2018-10-04T12:41:26Z")
Is this news? [“I Was Brett Kavanaugh’s College Roommate. He lied under oath about his drinking and terms in his yearbook.”](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-college-roommate-jamie-roche.html) > [@](#): > > Now the FBI is investigating this incident. I am willing to speak with them about my experiences at Yale with both Debbie and Brett. I would tell them this: Brett Kavanaugh stood up under oath and lied about his drinking and about the meaning of words in his yearbook. He did so baldly, without hesitation or reservation. In his words and his behavior, Judge Kavanaugh has shown contempt for the truth, for the process, for the rule of law, and for accountability. His willingness to lie to avoid embarrassment throws doubt on his denials about the larger questions of sexual assault. In contrast, I cannot remember ever having a reason to distrust anything, large or small, that I have heard from Debbie. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5971 "2018-10-04T13:01:12Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Is this news? > > [“I Was Brett Kavanaugh’s College Roommate. > He lied under oath about his drinking and terms in his yearbook.”](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-college-roommate-jamie-roche.html) Yes. Apparently someone who knew Kavanaugh in College is a good source for what Kavanaugh was in HS. A guy is breathlessly revealing that Kavanaugh lied about drinking in college to excess, since he well, said under oath he drank to excess. :rolleyes: We have gone from one plausible accusation (Ford), to a much more far fetched one (Ramirez) to ludicrous (Swetnick), to accusations of lying because of subjective reasons, to news about the lamest bar fight ever, to a letter about not bothering the neighbours being somehow DQing, to a schoolboy shenagin about imagined sexual conquests being somehow relevant…to I dunno, he probably pulled some girls pigtails in grade school, and grabbed some adult females tit when he was an infant… ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5972 "2018-10-04T13:02:56Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > School kids speak shyt. That’s “heartbreaking”? Try being a Catholic woman who now has to convince her husband, parents, kids, and god knows who else that she wasn’t the school slut. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5973 "2018-10-04T13:14:49Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Try being a Catholic woman who now has to convince her husband, parents, kids, and god knows who else that she wasn’t the school slut. If you are have family which is too dumb and or sheltered to understand the reliability or lack therefore of teenage boy claims and assertions, then frankly you have far bigger problems. :smack::dubious: ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5974 "2018-10-04T13:16:09Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > If you are have family which is too dumb and or sheltered to understand the reliability or lack therefore of teenage boy claims and assertions, then frankly you have far bigger problems. :smack::dubious: It’s rather easy for you to say that. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5975 "2018-10-04T13:23:14Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > If you are have family which is too dumb and or sheltered to understand the reliability or lack therefore of teenage boy claims and assertions, then frankly you have far bigger problems. :smack::dubious: But Kavanaugh’s life is ruuuuuuined by these accusations. His family (and party?) must also be too dumb and sheltered to understand the “reliability or lack therefore of teenage girl claims and assertions”? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5976 "2018-10-04T13:32:45Z")
When it happens to a politically-connected judge, it’s ruination. When it happens to a no-name who probably doesn’t even vote the right way, it’s not all that serious and something that would just be brushed off back in the good old days. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5977 "2018-10-04T13:36:30Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Do you want to go tit-for-tat on this? You cited one example. Want to see who has more examples of partisan-based violence? > [@RTFirefly](#): > > Not only was the supplemental FBI investigation a joke (it didn’t even rise to the level of a sham), but the process by which Senators can review the resulting report is [an even bigger joke](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-mitch-mcconnell-sets-up-the-vote.html): > > > [@](#): > > > > One (1) hard copy of the report will be transmitted to the Capitol and kept in a secure reading room. Senators, but not their staffs, will have the opportunity to read it in the following order: Republicans from 8 a.m. to 9 a.m., Democrats from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m., Republicans from 10 to 11, and so on. That’s not a joke. It’s just where we are. > > Yeah, that’s with debate starting tomorrow morning. So, even rushed and hobbled as it was, _something_ turned up that Yertle desperately wants to hide in the verbiage… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5978 "2018-10-04T14:03:42Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Not only was the supplemental FBI investigation a joke (it didn’t even rise to the level of a sham), but the process by which Senators can review the resulting report is [an even bigger joke](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-mitch-mcconnell-sets-up-the-vote.html): > Yeah, that’s with debate starting tomorrow morning. WaPo is reporting that it’s written in lemon juice and McConnell is ferociously guarding the only candle. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5979 "2018-10-04T14:18:17Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Not only was the supplemental FBI investigation a joke (it didn’t even rise to the level of a sham), but the process by which Senators can review the resulting report is [an even bigger joke](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-mitch-mcconnell-sets-up-the-vote.html): > Yeah, that’s with debate starting tomorrow morning. That’s a common process when the WH “loans” the Senate executive material (here, the FBI report). It was agreed to by Feinstein. It’s the same process Obama used. It might be a joke, but it’s a running gag. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5980 "2018-10-04T14:23:41Z")
“Gag” is certainly the appropriate word. Followed by “ralph”. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/5981 "2018-10-04T14:25:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > if only our country were run by professors, amirite? Or church members or housewives or gay bartenders or almost anyone except white male lawyers, actually. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=298) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=300)