# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 304
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6062 "2018-10-04T19:35:34Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I’ve been told repeatedly over the last couple weeks that not becoming a Supreme Court justice is pretty much the same as going to prison. By that measure, not being a senator anymore must be a living nightmare. Either one is probably like being forever doomed into the state of hyperbole. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6063 "2018-10-04T19:39:17Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t get it. There are certainly a number of female Senators that have won elections against men. Was he talking about Clinton’s impeachment or something? **Hurr** should be our ambassador to the ladies! He can explain all this, tell them not to worry their pretty little heads about it. Don’t forget,\*\* Hurr\*\*, that even as they claim otherwise, deep down, they totally love it when a confident and assertive man takes the time to explain things to them. Shit, they’ll be fetching you a sandwich and a beer in no time! ---
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6064 "2018-10-04T19:40:31Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Anyone else remember (and participate in) the outrage leading up to the Thomas vote? Stupid me, I hoped things might be better at this point. > > And anyone who criticizes Dem opposition, please try to recall what the Repubs did to Garland. > > Damn fine time to be a reasonably heathy, educated, upper middleclass, hetero, white male living in a (pretty) blue (tho pretty much bankrupt) state. Sucks to be the rest of you. :rolleyes: I liked Anita Hill. I supported Anita Hill. Ford was no Anita Hill. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6065 "2018-10-04T19:45:33Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > And anyone who criticizes Dem opposition, please try to recall what the Repubs did to Garland. The Republicans lied about him, smeared his name, and called him a rapist and a drunk and a liar? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6066 "2018-10-04T19:48:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The Republicans lied about him, smeared his name, and called him a rapist and a drunk and a liar? > > Regards, > Shodan I think a significant difference might be that he wasn’t a mean drunk, a liar, and a sexual predator. Though apparently if he had been, the Republicans would have fought for him. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6067 "2018-10-04T19:51:57Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > And do you think a swath of democrat senators saying they would oppose Kavanaugh within minutes of his nomination is not? Before the hearings? Before this allegation came out? > > Perhaps if it wasn’t plainly obvious that democrats were going to vote along the party line no matter what from day one, we wouldn’t be in this situation. It’s only been since last week that there’s been fewer uncommitted Dems than uncommitted Pubbies, so you can stick that bullshit in the circular file. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6068 "2018-10-04T19:52:57Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **Hurr** should be our ambassador to the ladies! He can explain all this, tell them not to worry their pretty little heads about it. Don’t forget,\*\* Hurr\*\*, that even as they claim otherwise, deep down, they totally love it when a confident and assertive man takes the time to explain things to them. Shit, they’ll be fetching you a sandwich and a beer in no time! This is inappropriate for this forum. If you want to act like an asshole take it to the Pit. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6069 "2018-10-04T19:55:08Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is inappropriate for this forum. If you want to act like an asshole take it to the Pit. > > [/moderating] So it’s okay for mods to call people “assholes” in non pit threads? Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6070 "2018-10-04T19:57:50Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The Republicans lied about him, smeared his name, and called him a rapist and a drunk and a liar? Well, Kavanaugh is a liar, he has been a serious drunk, and he may have also been a rapist. (Given his record for honesty on other matters, why should we give him equal cred with Dr. Ford on this one?) So tell me again about those lies and smears. Seems like Kavanaugh did plenty of both last Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6071 "2018-10-04T20:03:05Z")
> [@UnwittingAmericans](#): > > I liked Anita Hill. I supported Anita Hill. > > Ford was no Anita Hill. Why do you say that? Also, [a LOT of people apparently feel otherwise.](https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1047570145361776649) WaPo reporter Aaron Blake: > [@](#): > > NPR/Marist poll: > > 45% believe Christine Blasey Ford > 33% believe Kavanaugh > > In the early 90s, this was: > > Clarence Thomas 40% > Anita Hill 24% ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6072 "2018-10-04T20:05:03Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Well, Kavanaugh is a liar, he has been a serious drunk, and he may have also been a rapist. (Given his record for honesty on other matters, why should we give him equal cred with Dr. Ford on this one?) > > So tell me again about those lies and smears. Seems like Kavanaugh did plenty of both last Thursday. I think what **Shodan** is saying is that if the Republicans had said those things about Garland they would have been lies and smears. Unlike what the Democrats are saying about Kavenaugh, which appears to be pretty accurate. ---
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6073 "2018-10-04T20:08:49Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > So it’s okay for mods to call people “assholes” in non pit threads? > Interesting. What should happen is, instead of assholes like you wasting your time here Mandelbrotting, or bleating your impotence in individual posts, you should coordinate a national walkout. Not #believewomen #walkoutandstayout ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6074 "2018-10-04T20:13:28Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Why do you say that? > > Also, [a LOT of people apparently feel otherwise.](https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1047570145361776649) WaPo reporter Aaron Blake: > > In the early 90s, this was: > > Clarence Thomas 40% > Anita Hill 24% Being around back then, I think it’s more that people didn’t believe Hill should be making such a big deal of it rather than they didn’t believe her. That is, I remember believing the things she was saying, but _at the time_ thinking that they were no big deal and she was making a huge fuss out of a non-issue. I though she was getting upset over nothing. But objectively speaking, Anita Hill was much more believable. She was naming very specific incidents and providing a lot of detail about those incidents. I also believe Ford, but her recollections are much foggier and open to more interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6075 "2018-10-04T20:19:51Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Being around back then, I think it’s more that people didn’t believe Hill should be making such a big deal of it rather than they didn’t believe her. That is, I remember believing the things she was saying, but _at the time_ thinking that they were no big deal and she was making a huge fuss out of a non-issue. I though she was getting upset over nothing. But objectively speaking, Anita Hill was much more believable. She was naming very specific incidents and providing a lot of detail about those incidents. I also believe Ford, but her recollections are much foggier and open to more interpretation. It’s both. Anita Hill was a forceful witness. Ford was horrible from start to finish. She was getting patronized. The vocal fry, everything. She sounded like a SoCal dingbat ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6076 "2018-10-04T20:21:58Z")
> [@UnwittingAmericans](#): > > It’s both. > > Anita Hill was a forceful witness. Ford was horrible from start to finish. She was getting patronized. Which tells us nothing beyond “this is my opinion.” That’s nice. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6077 "2018-10-04T20:24:39Z")
> [@UnwittingAmericans](#): > > What should happen is, instead of assholes like you wasting your time here Mandelbrotting, or bleating your impotence in individual posts, you should coordinate a national walkout. > > Not #believewomen > > #walkoutandstayout NM ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6078 "2018-10-04T20:27:54Z")
> [@UnwittingAmericans](#): > > Anita Hill was a forceful witness. Ford was horrible from start to finish. She was getting patronized. That must be why TIME magazine just put Ford on the cover of the current issue, under the headline “Her Lasting Impact”, with her picture actually being an illustration composed from her words and phrases. Because, you know, she was so horrible. :rolleyes: Also why even Fox News declared it a bad day for Republicans after her testimony. Because of its non-forceful horribleness. Also why there are now protests against Kavanaugh breaking out all over. As for “getting patronized”, I don’t know what the hell you saw but what I saw was Democrats powerfully commending her as heroic, and Republicans pretending to be polite to her as a matter of political necessity. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6079 "2018-10-04T20:30:50Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I’m not **AK84** , but I have not seen any legitimate reason to reject Kavanaugh. You missed the fact that he was nominated by the America-hating fuckstick? Permit me to enlighten you. He was nominated by the America-hating fuckstick. There. Now you’ve seen a legitimate reason to reject him. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6080 "2018-10-04T20:35:28Z")
I think we should let the American people have a say in this by delaying the vote until after the election. ---
**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6081 "2018-10-04T20:38:56Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > That must be why TIME magazine just put Ford on the cover of the current issue, under the headline “Her Lasting Impact”, with her picture actually being an illustration composed from her words and phrases. Because, you know, she was so horrible. :rolleyes: Also why even Fox News declared it a bad day for Republicans after her testimony. Because of its non-forceful horribleness. Also why there are now protests against Kavanaugh breaking out all over. > > As for “getting patronized”, I don’t know what the hell you saw but what I saw was Democrats powerfully commending her as heroic, and Republicans pretending to be polite to her as a matter of political necessity. Time magazine was influential the last time we got rid of a president. Not now, it got purchased by some social media asshole. There were a bunch of rallies in the weeks after Trump took office. They amounted to 5k walks in nice weather. Did anything change? No. You fucking morons are lazy. You think purging this pathetic website amounts to something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=303) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733.md?page=305)