# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6102 "2018-10-04T21:16:32Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Should be notable but isn’t that John Paul Stevens, Republican former SC justice said Kavanaugh shouldn’t be confirmed.
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> [https://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/retired-supreme-court-justice-kavanaugh-does-not-belong-high-court/aXEO6XTeiF8OECimtNxpjJ/](https://t.co/OBGRikhVFp?amp=1)

So we have yet another person speaking out who is unexpectedly in Team KavaNO.

Why does it seem as though the defenders on this board see nothing notable about the fact that so many people and institutions are against this nominee? Doesn’t it say something about Kavanaugh that there are so few in the legal community singing his praises right now? Surely his critics aren’t all left wing partisans.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6103 "2018-10-04T21:17:05Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> Raise your hand if you are willing to
> 
> Walk off your job  
> Stay out until Trump resigns
> 
> I’m willing.
> 
> You’re not. You’re going to say Why should I have to.

Seriously, dude, what does this have to do with anything?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6104 "2018-10-04T21:20:06Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> Exactly.

Ah, the Koch Brothers are “some social media asshole.”

I’d concur about the ‘asshole’ part (though I’d make it plural, obviously), but one out of four isn’t a great batting average on such a simple ID.

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6105 "2018-10-04T21:20:41Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> So we have yet another person speaking out who is unexpectedly in Team KavaNO.
> 
> Why does it seem as though the defenders on this board see nothing notable about the fact that so many people and institutions are against this nominee? Doesn’t it say something about Kavanaugh that there are so few in the legal community singing his praises right now? Surely his critics aren’t all left wing partisans.

They’re peer-pressure pussies just like everybody else.

Why don’t you take a poll and find out how all your co-workers feel and act accordingly and tell everyone you know about it?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6106 "2018-10-04T21:23:47Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Too soon to say yet but I think Flake is keeping his options open on this count.

The only way for him to do that is if he can keep a vote from happening. How long can he manage that trick?

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6107 "2018-10-04T21:24:50Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Seriously, dude, what does this have to do with anything?

Props for the Marx Bros reference, otherwise I give you no weight.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6108 "2018-10-04T21:26:35Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I recall it just fine. They didn’t advise or consent.
> 
> They didn’t call him a sex offender, though.

They didn’t give him a hearing. When they have given him a hearing maybe you have a contribution?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6109 "2018-10-04T21:32:15Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> What should happen is, instead of assholes like you wasting your time here Mandelbrotting, or bleating your impotence in individual posts, you should coordinate a national walkout.
> 
> Not #believewomen
> 
> #walkoutandstayout

This is a warning for personal insults. You’re also trolling this thread but I’m not going to give you two warnings at the same time.

You are no longer allowed to post in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6110 "2018-10-04T21:38:10Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> The Republicans lied about him, smeared his name, and called him a rapist and a drunk and a liar?
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Nope - what the Repubs did was far worse than that. Of course, you know that.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6111 "2018-10-04T21:38:14Z")

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> [@LAZombie](#):
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> “EXCLUSIVE: ‘ **Christine Ford threw her under the bus**.’ Strained ‘sex assault’ witness Leland Keyser is seen for the first time as close family member confirms she did NOT corroborate school friend Ford’s story to FBI” My bolding.
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> [Christine Ford's friend was 'blindsided' when named as a witness | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6235463/Christine-Fords-high-school-friend-blindsided-named-corroborating-witness.html)

Not going to read the Daily Mail. Anyone want to take one for the team and let me know if there’s anything in this story that’s not already in Keyser’s public statement from some time ago (that she didn’t remember the party, but did support Ford)?

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6112 "2018-10-04T21:39:53Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I recall it just fine. They didn’t advise or consent.
> 
> They didn’t call him a sex offender, though.

Is there any evidence that he WAS a sex offender?

This is awfully weak, even for you.

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6113 "2018-10-04T21:42:39Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> This is a warning for personal insults. You’re also trolling this thread but I’m not going to give you two warnings at the same time.
> 
> You are no longer allowed to post in this thread.
> 
> [/moderating]

Oh brother.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6114 "2018-10-04T21:43:58Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> Oh brother.

And that’s a warning for not obeying moderator instructions. Calm down.

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**Author:** ![UnwittingAmericans](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d9b06d/32.png) [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6115 "2018-10-04T21:48:04Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> And that’s a warning for not obeying moderator instructions. Calm down.

Oh.

How’s that?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6116 "2018-10-04T21:50:04Z")

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> [@UnwittingAmericans](#):
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> Oh.
> 
> How’s that?

Another warning is you. You are suspended for 3 days. If you come back and post in this thread, you will be banned.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6117 "2018-10-04T22:01:45Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> As I predicted, absolutely nothing has come from this investigation, nor will it ever. Do we want a few more weeks of hearing about how in 1985 Kavanaugh pissed off a hotel balcony in Ocean City, MD? Do we want to interview fifty more witnesses, have some say Kav was wonderful, others that he was a drunk?

The number of potential witnesses ignored by the FBI is troubling. One I’d like to hear from, under oath, is the professor at Princeton Theological Seminary who has what sounds like very relevant information about the Deborah Ramirez accusation:

> [@](#):
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> … Some potential witnesses tried to contact the FBI but couldn’t. NBC News reported that dozens of people who said they had information about Kavanaugh contacted FBI field offices, but agents were not allowed to talk to many of them.
> 
> … One witness who said he wasn’t interviewed claimed to remember hearing about the incident at Yale. According to the New Yorker, Kenneth G. Appold, who was a suitemate of Kavanaugh’s when the alleged incident at Yale occurred and was quoted anonymously in an earlier New Yorker story, decided to come forward publicly. Appold, now a professor at Princeton Theological Seminary, had previously said he heard of the allegation a day or two afterward and that he was “100 percent certain” he was told it was Kavanaugh. He had told his roommate about the incident at the time, and that roommate told the New Yorker he remembered Appold’s account, as they had both been shocked by it. …

> **[The FBI Is Done With Its Kavanaugh Investigation. Here’s Everything We Know...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-report-investigation-witnesses-confirmation-vote.html)**
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> Senators are reviewing the file ahead of Friday's procedural vote.

Of _course_ “nothing” will come from an investigation that has been instructed to ignore potential witnesses. What the right doesn’t seem to acknowledge is that tearing down institutions this way–and this cover-up “investigation” has done exactly that to both the Senate and the Supreme Court–will not ultimately benefit the right. Too many Americans will note the fakery, and will resent the contempt in which Republicans clearly hold their intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6118 "2018-10-04T22:16:16Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Nope - what the Repubs did was far worse than that. Of course, you know that.

What? I can’t count the number of times that I’ve been told that “This is just a job interview.” People don’t get job interviews all the time.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6119 "2018-10-04T22:18:15Z")

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It looks like the FBI report contains information passed along to FBI - 1,600 pages worth. I’m not saying that’s an excuse for not interviewing some of those witnesses if the FBI wanted to, but that information from non-interviewed witnesses is available for the Senators to review.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6120 "2018-10-04T22:21:33Z")

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Or “review.”

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6121 "2018-10-04T22:21:35Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Another warning is you.

I think your voice-to-text app needs some fine-tuning. 😉

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