# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 316
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6302 "2018-10-05T17:07:37Z")
Has this sex crimes expert a name? A certification from the American Association of Sex Crimes Experts? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6303 "2018-10-05T17:08:45Z")
**UltraVires** if Collins is a “no”, your Senator ends up being the deciding vote. What you said he did not want to be. How will he react then? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6304 "2018-10-05T17:12:04Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Nonsense. My house was built in the 80’s has a first floor bathroom, as do neighbors’ houses I’ve visited. Heck, my parents’ house was built in 1910 and had a first floor bathroom. You’ll find there are lots of 2/3 bedroom houses built in the 20s-70s (and probably earlier, but I’m not familiar with those) with only one shared bathroom, on the second floor (and it will be above the kitchen to share the plumbing). ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6305 "2018-10-05T17:13:11Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Any word on whatsisname (R-CO)? Rumors last night were that he was still ambivalent and holding meetings with victims groups. I mentioned Carboard Cory before in this thread. His official position as of yesterday was undecided. He’s up for reelection in 2020 in a state Clinton won by 5 points and is probably already doomed. A ‘yes’ vote won’t help at all and the widely ignored Deborah Ramirez is his constituent. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6306 "2018-10-05T17:15:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > - Mitch McConnell Yeah - being proud about THAT (and slow walking so many of Obama’s judicial nominations), I find it difficult to accept him being critical of ANYTHING anyone else might do to impede a nomination. And for anyone who is criticizing any aspect of the opposition to Kavanaugh today, I am curious whether they just as loudly criticized McConnell’s position. Why is one acceptable and the other not? I will note that I generally believe great judicial deference ought to be afforded the nomination of a sitting President. For example, while I thought Thomas horribly unqualified and think he has proven as much, I respected Bush’s right to nominate him. In short, the Dems screwed up by losing an election they should have had in the bag. Having lost that election, the winners have a great deal of latitude in judicial (and other) appointments. Hope all the idiots who voted Green - or didn’t vote - appreciate that now. I also admit that I have some difficulty with the substance of the accusations and the way they were handled. I’m trying to get my middle aged male brain around some issues of memory and such. Just admitting where I’m coming from. But it just seems to me that it shouldn’t be too difficult to find someone who is minimally qualified who DOESN’T have as much apparent baggage as Kavanaugh. For example, Gorsuch’s views are odious, but he never conducted himself in a manner that contributed to even poorly substantiated accusations of sexual assault/excessive underage drinking. I’m willing to accept an awfully low bar - and am regularly impressed when folk appear willing to slither under even that. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6307 "2018-10-05T17:24:03Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > But Collins is a weak reed, and she’s consistently telegraphed a willingness to accept any sort of cover for voting Yes. (For instance, yesterday when she called the FBI investigation ‘thorough.’) Can’t say I have much hope. Collins has made it very, very clear all along she’ll vote for Kavanaugh without actually committing, by making statements about how Kavanaugh is okay by the standards she claims to uphold; she’s said all signs are he’ll uphold Roe v. Wade, claimed the FBI investigation was thorough, and claimed she wasn’t hearing negative things from her constituents about him. All those things are lies, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6308 "2018-10-05T17:32:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > And Kavanaugh sometimes got drunk in college and put potty humor in his yearbook. And then lied about it under oath. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6309 "2018-10-05T17:34:52Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I also admit that I have some difficulty with the substance of the accusations and the way they were handled. I’m trying to get my middle aged male brain around some issues of memory and such. Just admitting where I’m coming from. > > But it just seems to me that it shouldn’t be too difficult to find someone who is minimally qualified who DOESN’T have as much apparent baggage as Kavanaugh. For example, Gorsuch’s views are odious, but he never conducted himself in a manner that contributed to even poorly substantiated accusations of sexual assault/excessive underage drinking. I’m willing to accept an awfully low bar - and am regularly impressed when folk appear willing to slither under even that. Set it as low as a doggie door, and we get Justice Spuds MacKenzie. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6310 "2018-10-05T17:36:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Nonsense. My house was built in the 80’s has a first floor bathroom, as do neighbors’ houses I’ve visited. Heck, my parents’ house was built in 1910 and had a first floor bathroom. Why does this mean all two story homes have a bathroom on the first floor? I live in a Cape Cod that was built in the 30’s and the only bathroom is upstairs. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6311 "2018-10-05T17:53:19Z")
So we’re all waiting to hear Collins decision at 3:00pm Eastern? If she’s a yes, Kavanaugh has 50 votes, right? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6312 "2018-10-05T17:56:33Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Any word on whatsisname (R-CO)? Rumors last night were that he was still ambivalent and holding meetings with victims groups. The meeting with sexual assault victims was no rumor, it was a [news story](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/10/04/cory-gardner-fbi-report-brett-kavanaugh/). ---
**Author:** ![Modesty\_Blaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Modesty\_Blaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Modesty_Blaise)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6313 "2018-10-05T18:02:35Z")
Kavanaugh has NOT apologized. The WSJ piece by Kavanaugh has been continually referred to as an “apology”. It’s NOT. Nowhere does he apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6314 "2018-10-05T18:04:20Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > The meeting with sexual assault victims was no rumor, it was a [news story](https://www.denverpost.com/2018/10/04/cory-gardner-fbi-report-brett-kavanaugh/). Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6315 "2018-10-05T18:05:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So we’re all waiting to hear Collins decision at 3:00pm Eastern? If she’s a yes, Kavanaugh has 50 votes, right? It appears Gardner may not be solid. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6316 "2018-10-05T18:12:28Z")
Would McConnell call a vote if the result wasn’t 100% certain? And, if he did and it’s a “no”, what happens then? Can they wait til the mid-terms and vote on him again if the republicans get a solid majority in the Senate? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6317 "2018-10-05T18:21:19Z")
> [@nate](#): > > I swear, if this was reversed and it was a democratic nominee that was acting the exact same way as Kavanaugh I’d bet my life savings the polled Democrats would indicate they should withdraw the nomination and just nominate another left-leaning judge. I simply can not relate to conservative mindset. I don’t get it. I haven’t for years and it’s just gotten worse.It’s really fucking weird. They are all really fucking weird. At Trump’s most recent Nuremberg rally, he was actually making fun of Al Franken for “folding” when he was accused of sexual improprieties. Because from the Republican mindset, men should be proud of their assaults, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6318 "2018-10-05T18:21:47Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Would McConnell call a vote if the result wasn’t 100% certain? And, if he did and it’s a “no”, what happens then? Can they wait til the mid-terms and vote on him again if the republicans get a solid majority in the Senate? I believe President Trump would have to re-nominate him at the start of Congress’ next term. That is, I believe, what Lindsay Graham was suggesting he do. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6319 "2018-10-05T18:24:06Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > … > I will note that I generally believe great \*\*judicial \*\* deference ought to be afforded the nomination of a sitting President. … Edit window past. Inclusion of the word “judicial” was error. Apologies for any confusion. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6320 "2018-10-05T18:27:53Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > … > But it just seems to me that it shouldn’t be too difficult to find someone who is minimally qualified who DOESN’T have as much apparent baggage as Kavanaugh. For example, Gorsuch’s views are odious, but he never conducted himself in a manner that contributed to even poorly substantiated accusations of sexual assault/excessive underage drinking. I’m willing to accept an awfully low bar - and am regularly impressed when folk appear willing to slither under even that. AND who would be just as willing to overturn Roe. What’s so special about Kav? Except McConnell refuses to even give the appearance of caving to the Dems anything they want. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6321 "2018-10-05T18:32:17Z")
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