# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6562 "2018-10-06T21:58:38Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> _Now_ they certainly would.

Well, they certainly should. The first job of a politician is to win. They can have the best policies in the world, but they are useless if they’re not in power.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6563 "2018-10-06T22:00:51Z")

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And of course NOW we find out:

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> Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. has received more than a dozen judicial misconduct complaints in recent weeks against Brett M. Kavanaugh, who was confirmed as a Supreme Court justice Saturday, but has chosen for the time being not to refer them to a judicial panel for investigation.
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> A judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit — the court on which Kavanaugh serves — passed on to Roberts a string of complaints the court received starting three weeks ago, said four people familiar with the matter.
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> That judge, Karen LeCraft Henderson, had dismissed other complaints against Kavanaugh as frivolous, but she concluded that some were substantive enough that they should not be handled by Kavanaugh’s fellow judges in the D.C. Circuit.
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> Roberts’s decision not to immediately refer the cases to another appeals court has caused some concern in the legal community. Now that he has been confirmed, the details of the complaints may not become public and instead may be dismissed, legal experts say. Supreme Court justices are not subject to the misconduct rules governing these claims.
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> “If Justice Roberts sits on the complaints, then they will reside in a kind of purgatory and will never be adjudicated,” said Stephen Gillers, a professor at New York University Law School and an expert on Supreme Court ethics. “This is not how the rules anticipated the process would work.”
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> SOURCE: [D.C. Circuit sent complaints about Kavanaugh’s testimony to Chief Justice Roberts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/dc-circuit-sent-complaints-about-kavanaughs-testimony-to-chief-justice-roberts/2018/10/06/c7e7b526-c8d0-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.aaa7b8921450&__twitter_impression=true&noredirect=on)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6564 "2018-10-06T22:01:56Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> No need to wonder. Republicans stole a supreme court seat from Merrick Garland.

No, they didn’t. The _Senate_, not the Republicans, declined to consider him due to his nomination being against their advice - advice the President at the time was constitutionally bound to follow, but instead ignored.

Obama shoudl have nominated whoever McConnell told him to. The legislature tell the President what to do, not the other way round.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6565 "2018-10-06T22:05:44Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I don’t know how you can still say that he;s credibly accused, when every single piece of evidence that’s come out since the accusation by Ford points to it never having happened.

This is a false assertion – there have been several pieces of evidence that support Ford’s accusation. But we’ve been over and over this – you don’t think those pieces of evidence count. Fine, I’m not interested in going on and on about it with you. The Republicans got their guy. We’ll see if the Democrats win either the House or Senate and actually do a full and thorough investigation, both of the sexual assault allegations and for perjury.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6566 "2018-10-06T22:10:38Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I certainly didn’t say that. I simply pointed out that **Fiveyearlurker** was wrong and how. You imagined the above part.

No, I didn’t imagine at all that you used examples from over a century ago to support your argument.

> [@Steophan](#):
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> No, they didn’t. The _Senate_, not the Republicans, declined to consider him due to his nomination being against their advice - advice the President at the time was constitutionally bound to follow, but instead ignored.
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> Obama shoudl have nominated whoever McConnell told him to. The legislature tell the President what to do, not the other way round.

This is completely wrong in every way.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6567 "2018-10-06T22:12:14Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> No need to wonder. Republicans stole a supreme court seat from Merrick Garland.

Forget it. With **doorhinge** , it’s all smoke and mirrors.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6568 "2018-10-06T22:30:22Z")

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_NM - didn’t even see the new page_

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6569 "2018-10-06T22:31:24Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is a false assertion – there have been several pieces of evidence that support Ford’s accusation.

No, there haven’t. Not one. No-one remembers the party, and no-one remembers seeing Kavanaugh attack her. There is absolutely nothing, apart from her testimony, that suggests that anything like what she claims ever happened. You are trying to spin evidence that he drank, and evidence that he wrote disrespectful things about women, into corroboration of her claims. It is not. That, by the way, is not an opinion, it is an observable fact. Your bias (as so often) prevents you from seeing, and dealing with facts.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6570 "2018-10-06T22:34:35Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> No, there haven’t. Not one. No-one remembers the party, and no-one remembers seeing Kavanaugh attack her. There is absolutely nothing, apart from her testimony, that suggests that anything like what she claims ever happened. You are trying to spin evidence that he drank, and evidence that he wrote disrespectful things about women, into corroboration of her claims. It is not. That, by the way, is not an opinion, it is an observable fact. Your bias (as so often) prevents you from seeing, and dealing with facts.

You’re leaving out several facts, but I’m not interested in discussing this further with you. The Republicans won this round.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6571 "2018-10-06T22:36:21Z")

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I’m hopeful that most Democrats are as angry as I am about this, and will stay this angry for the next month. We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6572 "2018-10-06T23:06:10Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> No, I didn’t imagine at all that you used examples from over a century ago to support your argument. …

You _DID_ imagine that I said anything about wanting “to return things to how they were”. I said nothing about that. I was merely pointing out **Fiveyearlurker** ’s error.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/6573 "2018-10-06T23:23:21Z")

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Apparently the answer to the thread is “no”.

With that I think this has run its course.

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