# Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 4, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733 "2018-09-04T12:49:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/641 "2018-09-12T18:45:33Z")

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Look, guys, the fact that your faction got away with an act of cheating and subversion of the Constitution doesn’t meant it \*wasn’t \*those things. If you feel a little conscience-stricken about it, then try your best to make up for it and don’t do it again. _Don’t_ try to tell yourself, and especially not the rest of us, that it’s all right.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/642 "2018-09-12T18:53:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> … subversion of the Constitution …

LOL. No.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/643 "2018-09-12T18:54:55Z")

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As I just said … :dubious:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/644 "2018-09-12T18:58:10Z")

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Nah, he got you good with that one! A pity he can’t rise above snappy, substance-free one liners, but like I always say, a bit of Republican humor is better than a cold bottle of Mr. Pibb!

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/645 "2018-09-12T19:00:29Z")

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What’s the saying around here? “Any gratuitous assertion may be equally gratuitously denied.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/646 "2018-09-12T19:23:37Z")

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Only one guy says that, and he doesn’t carry a lot of weight. It doesn’t help you to ape him.

But, any avoidance technique you can grab onto, I guess …

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/647 "2018-09-12T19:36:34Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> What’s the saying around here? “Any gratuitous assertion may be equally gratuitously denied.”

Yes, but a gratuitous assertion may be true. It simply has not been supported. By contrast, a false assertion supported by weak evidence is not “gratuitous”, but is still false.

You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/648 "2018-09-12T20:13:20Z")

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As long as we agree that this is the current state of ElvisL1ves’ assertion:

> [@elucidator](#):
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> … It simply has not been supported. …

I’m all good.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/649 "2018-09-12T20:15:45Z")

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IOW, “no u” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/650 "2018-09-12T21:31:42Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> And if a pure interest in representative democracy does not sway you, then this thought experiment should:
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> Trump is, like it or not, the President. Which judge should he appoint?
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> (1) A judge that says, “I dispense justice as I see it. I’m not concerned about the opinions of dead men in wigs. I will deliver results that make this country better!” And remember: Trump picked this judge.
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> (2) A judge that says, “My ideas about wise legislative choices and policies have no place in my opinions. I deliver a reading of the law as written, applied to the facts before me.”
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> I know that you WANT Judge 1 picked by Obama. But that’s not an option right now. So are your interests better served by Trump-picked Judge 1 or Trump-picked Judge 2?

Trump is in the last year of, if not his presidency, then his sanity and his freedom, so I think he gets the Obama doctrine applied to him. Remind me what that was again just so we’re on the same page.

If you deny the obama doctrine for a white guy, then how about his being the subject of a probe into conspiracy and treason? This seems a good reason to have a shut down until we figure out what the hell is going on.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/651 "2018-09-12T21:36:24Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Trump is in the last year of, if not his presidency, then his sanity and his freedom

It’s January 2024?? Damn, I slept for a long time.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/652 "2018-09-12T21:40:06Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Trump is in the last year of, if not his presidency, then his sanity and his freedom…

Some of you guys were saying that last year too (and were wrong then).

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/653 "2018-09-12T22:01:07Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> " I deliver a reading of the law as written, applied to the facts before me.”

You say that as if the two phrases don’t and CANNOT occasionally contradict one another. Rather simplistic.

And, for the love of cheese, will you get off the “philosopher-kings” schtick?? It’s getting old – no, we’re past that. It’s stinking up the place. Find a new theme, _please._ :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/654 "2018-09-12T22:44:19Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Some of you guys were saying that last year too (and were wrong then).

It’s this year now. Calendars have consequences.

Who said it last year? I couldn’t get a word in edgewise last year because I was being constantly lectured about how to act around trump voters, so that dems wouldn’t make a huge mistake in offending them or something. Remind me about that one.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/655 "2018-09-12T22:59:12Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> … Who said it last year? …

Here’s a sampling:

> [@Trump will resign](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-resign/786922/1):
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> As more and more damning information is made public about trump, it seems to me that the most likely scenario is that he will very suddenly resign, and immediately declare to his “base” that he was hounded out of office for telling the truth and trying to help them, something they will believe wholeheartedly.
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> He’ll then hold some brownshirt rallies in congenial places, bath in the adulation, and go back to cheating people in the private sector.
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> My feeling is that this will happen in the next month or two.

[What will be Trump’s final month in office?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=8002)

[The Trump Resignation Pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=828876)

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/656 "2018-09-12T23:49:27Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Here’s a sampling:
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> [What will be Trump’s final month in office?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=8002)
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> [The Trump Resignation Pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=828876)

Is your point that this year is going to be another one like last year for donald and his minions? Because something in SDMB?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/657 "2018-09-12T23:53:51Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Is your point that this year is going to be another one like last year for donald and his minions? Because something in SDMB?

My point is that the predictions of his eminent resignation / impeachment / arrest / whatever, including yours, are greatly exaggerated.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/658 "2018-09-12T23:55:46Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> You say that as if the two phrases don’t and CANNOT occasionally contradict one another. Rather simplistic.
> 
> And, for the love of cheese, will you get off the “philosopher-kings” schtick?? It’s getting old – no, we’re past that. It’s stinking up the place. Find a new theme, _please._ :rolleyes:

When you stop promoting federal judges as philosopher-kings, I’ll stop pointing out your promotion of federal judges as philosopher-kings.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/659 "2018-09-12T23:58:14Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Is your point that this year is going to be another one like last year for donald and his minions? Because something in SDMB?

Do you have a prediction as to what Trump’s last day in office will be?

Mine is: January 20th, 2021.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/660 "2018-09-13T00:00:25Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> My point is that the predictions of his eminent resignation / impeachment / arrest / whatever, including yours, are greatly exaggerated.

How so? Given that a prediction is in the future and all. Sounds like you have knowledge.

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