I think I’ve found the problem.
There’s a lot of that going around lately: The Daily Beast - Democrats to Michael Avenatti: You’re Not Helping in the Kavanaugh Fight
Yeah, but on the other hand, its from a thoroughly disreputable source by way of a partisan outlet. So, it cancels out, making it valid. Excluded muddle.
…this is what I said about Avenatti and his accusation in another thread:
That was two days ago.
My opinion hasn’t changed.
From the LA Times piece…
That’s some black out drunk stuff right there.
I don’t drink either. Is blacking out an inevitable result of binge drinking? I was under the impression that it was a specific physiological reaction that not everyone experienced as a result of alcohol consumption.
Yes. If you drink enough, you will black out. No one is immune.
…that really wasn’t the question though. Of course if you drink enough you will black out. But “binge drinking” describes the action of drinking to get intoxicated where blackouts is a common risk that may or may not occur.
Blacking out is an inevitable result of not knowing when you’ve had enough, in my opinion. I personally believe having periods of memory that are not there or are difficult to recall is fairly common for people who drink heavily, whether they will admit it or not. I’ve also known people who routinely drink to the point where they don’t recall how they got home, where they left their work bag or briefcase, etc. but would never admit that is blacking out.
An infrequent binge drinker might puke or even pass out out before they get black out drunk.
A frequent, practiced, binge drinker will get black out drunk often. Not every time, but often enough that apologizing for something you don’t remember doing is the kind of thing you do without batting an eye, and asking who won game that you attended after tailgating is fairly common.
I have to agree. And I don’t think many voters have an appetite for yet another “I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE IT’S ALL ABOUT ME” president.
(Also I’m not convinced he actually holds any progressive views.)
…cite please.
I hope it’s not from personal experience.
From here, under the heading “Causes”. Yeah, I know, Wikipedia. But before you dismiss it that looks like a well written article with multiple citations to outside sources. This is a link to the abstract for the article they used as a source. Feel free to slog through that if you so desire.
…not a cite that blackouts exist. We all concede that blackouts exist.
A cite that “A frequent, practiced, binge drinker will get black out drunk often.”
From your cite:
40% is high. But it isn’t everyone. So it is completely possible that Kavanaugh can be a binge drinker but not experienced a blackout.
The study says, “40% of those surveyed who had consumed alcohol recently reported having experienced a blackout within the preceding year.” Kavanaugh was a notably heavy drinker even for a frat boy. He wasn’t someone who “recently consumed” alcohol. He was someone who frequently incoherently drunk. He was definitely in that 40%.
The thing about getting black out drunk is that by the very nature of “blacking out” I would think there are at least another 10-20% who simply don’t realize they blacked out. I know this is purely anecdotal but I’ve worked in the service industry for 25+ years and I’ve encountered a lot of people who have made total fools of themselves while drunk and later had no memory of it. Most of them are highly successful types who would never consider themselves to be black out drunks. Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt, as the saying goes.
This is a fascinating diversion into the biology of blacking out as it relates to drinking heavily, but could we maybe get back to Kavanaugh? I’m really not sure what it has to do with the matter.
On Fox News, and other places, Kavanaugh lied about (or at least severely underplayed) the amount of drinking and partying that he practiced during his high school years and beyond.
- That by itself implies alcoholism, not generally considered a good characteristic for the Supreme Court
- If he’s willing to deceive about his level of drinking, what other bad habits may he be being deceptive about?
By the by, I’m curious. I’ve read that in 2016 Kavanaugh had a credit card debt of $60,000 - $200,000…and then he didn’t. Presuming I’ve got my facts right, has any explanation of that ever come to light? Mortgage loan, lottery win, just really saving his $120,000ish salary?
I agree this is a diversion but I would say it relates to the topic at hand at least to the extent that Kavanaugh, like most blackout drunks I’ve known, wouldn’t be willing to admit publicly that he has ever been a blackout drunk.
- Is it possible he is so in denial about his level of drinking that he hasn’t honestly ever considered he is in fact a blackout drunk? Or is he lying about this as well?
Good heavens. Is there anyone who drank (or otherwise imbibed) heavily at some period in their lives who would NOT agree that they “lost” various parts of their time while drunk? :smack: As Dave Edmunds said, “What did I get into? Tell me who should I apologize to?”
(What Did I Do Last Night - great song on a great album!)