Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

We don’t need 9 justices to do business, anyway. You need to slow down. Let the politics take place. You’re such a huge fan of that, sometimes.

Aww, poor widdle Republicans… an investigation into the facts of a serious allegation might harm them politically! How sad. There’s a tiny violin playing a sad march right now, if you listen hard enough.

I’m only going to feel sorry for us if we’re stupid enough to fall for the political games the Dems have played with this.

Gosh, that Mark Judge is a real gem. Link

No wonder why he isn’t testifying.

The games Democrats have played with SCOTUS confirmations?

:eek: :smack::dubious:

Wow.

Is it just the internet enabled people or is the whole USA one enormous basket case now?

Yes, sitting on the Ford letter for weeks. Did you miss the previous discussion of that?

So, its a brilliant scheme of cunning, treachery and skulduggery from the Democratic Party? You know, there have been times when I might have wished it were possible. Alas, no.

What about stuff like seeing if a big check from George Soros suddenly appeared in her bank account last month? Or checking with her friends to see if she confided in them that she was going to falsely accuse Kavanaugh? Or seeing if she’s falsely accused other people in the past?

Again, investigation doesn’t just mean putting her on the stand and hearing her story. That’s shit that the FBI can do. If it really is he-said she-said then the FBI will turn up nothing and then all we can do is hear the testimony and draw our conclusions. But crazy lying bitches sometimes make mistakes, and I’m not talking about cracking on the witness stand, Perry Mason style. Get the FBI involved for some of that shit.

Definitely the latter.

What did she do wrong by your estimation?

Bolding mine.

You keep mentioning Judge’s “denial,” but he didn’t deny that the event took place. His statement issued through his lawyer said simply that he has “no memory of this alleged incident” (cite). That’s entirely consistent with Kavanaugh being innocent, but it’s also entirely consistent with Ford’s description of the pair as “blackout drunk.”

Taken in conjunction with his memoir about ridiculous drinking in high school, Judge’s carefully worded “denial” is less than compelling.

I feel like we’re going in circles. Earlier I noted that the FBI wasn’t interested in investigating this, because there was no possible federal crime. Your response was “They should at least try to do an investigation. The Senate does have subpoena powers, they can compel witnesses to testify. …” to which I explained the political realities that make such an approach distasteful. Now we’re back to “get the FBI involved”, and my response is, once again, the FBI does not want to.

Feinstein? By keeping the allegation secret throughout the whole hearing whose sole purpose (at least officially) was to evaluate Kavanaugh’s fitness for SCOTUS.

My understanding is that Judge also refused to testify under oath, about his memory.

The FBI has stated “The FBI’s role in such matters is to provide information for the use of the decision makers.” The decision makers – the Senate Judiciary Committee – could very easily request the FBI’s assistance in providing more information in this matter, and there’s no indication that they have done so. There’s nothing stopping the Senate from making such a request, except for a lack of a desire to actually fully investigate this allegation.

Makes me start to wonder about the “unofficial” purposes. Do official purposes only matter if it is a democrat?

I’m talking about something she did wrong, beyond the norms. What is it? We dispensed with norms in this thread already. If you want to go back that is very hypocritical.

She “held” onto something amidst “politics”? Do you want a crying towel?

Your cite says:

To be more thorough, the New York Times published:

Perhaps still not as iron-clad a denial as you’d like to see, but it does seem a good bit more than just “no memory of this alleged incident.” If the NYT felt comfortable writing “Mark Judge, also denied the episode ever happened”, I feel pretty comfortable labeling it Judge’s “denial”. YMMV.

The unofficial purposes I had in mind were to provide aspiring presidential candidates an opportunity for political grandstanding. You may recall my earlier reference to Cory “Spartacus” Booker.

OK, some one on the Senate payroll, if the FBI is helpless against crazy lying bitches. I can think of a dozen things that might turn up to exculpate Kavanaugh if we do a little digging and don’t just give up and declare that it’s all impossible.

Do I think an investigation is likely to turn up exculpatory evidence? No I do not. Mostly because the most likely explanation is that the story is substantially true, or at least partially true, and the story probably wasn’t cooked up out of whole cloth.

So we’re probably not going to find anything like that. But if we live in a universe where the accuser is a crazy lying bitch on a high tech lynching mission, the odds of finding something like that go up substantially. As opposed to the universe where it happened, or the universe where it was just a little horseplay that she built up into a big thing. In that universe then no, we aren’t going to turn up any exculpatory evidrnce.

So take your pick. I don’t know for sure which universe we are living in and neither do you. But an investigation at least has the potential of helping the Republicans, right? Not browbeating the witness on live television, but an actual investigation.

The only downside is that it gives the Democrats a news cycle win if the vote gets delayed a couple weeks. The Republicans look like sissies. So which is more important?