# Can Dr. Oz sink any lower? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 14, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433 "2014-05-14T12:33:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/261 "2014-05-16T18:36:39Z")
Can we maybe compromise? Say, a miserable death surrounded by sycophants? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/262 "2014-05-16T18:42:47Z")
What’s with all of this Jon Stewart talk (and Colbert who you also mentioned). Are these just people you assume all white people love? I mean, we do but I’m wondering if that’s why you chose them. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/263 "2014-05-16T18:48:26Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > What’s with all of this Jon Stewart talk (and Colbert who you also mentioned). Are these just people you assume all white people love? I mean, we do but I’m wondering if that’s why you chose them. GrandWino, well…yeah. Liberal white people. Dopers! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/264 "2014-05-16T18:51:29Z")
Am I allowed to hope that Oprah and Oz get a nasty case of the flu or shingles? A few weeks of really bad coughing from pertussis? A bit of swelling in their gonads from the mumps? Or is that all too meany-weany? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/265 "2014-05-16T18:52:55Z")
Shingles goes too far. The rest are ok. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/266 "2014-05-16T19:01:01Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > GrandWino, well…yeah. Liberal white people. Dopers! For you personally, why is this an issue of race? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/267 "2014-05-16T19:04:19Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > The irony here is rich… RICH i say… Let’s look at Dana White… the very successful exboxer now UFC promoter… He and the Fertita’s (0wner’s) put two guys in the ring and the essentially beat the shit out of each other in many interesting ways. White and the owner’s own the fight… the options on any future fights… this isn’t some Oscar De La Hoya/Mayweather situation. The fighters… even the main ones… aren’t entitled to any PPV points and rarely make a million. Is White responsible for the well being of his fighters. probably not. is he or Vince McMahon responsible for what they put out on their shows/networks? No… not really. And few would argue that they should… But the sassy black lady is the scourge because ultimately she’s responsible for whatever actions people take after watching her shows and reading her magazines. Nobody said this same shit to Joe Weider… Is it that Oprah’s audience is so mentally handicapped that they need some special societal protection… or is it that guys… HATE her shit and have something to say on it. I don’t read the mag and haven’t watched the tv show in years… but I do find the double standard pretty apparent… It’s racism… it’s sexism… it’s misogyn all wrapped up into one shit sandwich… 😕 Who the fuck is Dana White? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/268 "2014-05-16T19:09:17Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > The irony here is rich… RICH i say… Let’s look at Dana White… the very successful exboxer now UFC promoter… He and the Fertita’s (0wner’s) put two guys in the ring and the essentially beat the shit out of each other in many interesting ways. White and the owner’s own the fight… the options on any future fights… this isn’t some Oscar De La Hoya/Mayweather situation. The fighters… even the main ones… aren’t entitled to any PPV points and rarely make a million. Is White responsible for the well being of his fighters. probably not. is he or Vince McMahon responsible for what they put out on their shows/networks? No… not really. And few would argue that they should… But the sassy black lady is the scourge because ultimately she’s responsible for whatever actions people take after watching her shows and reading her magazines. Nobody said this same shit to Joe Weider… Is it that Oprah’s audience is so mentally handicapped that they need some special societal protection… or is it that guys… HATE her shit and have something to say on it. I don’t read the mag and haven’t watched the tv show in years… but I do find the double standard pretty apparent… It’s racism… it’s sexism… it’s misogyn all wrapped up into one shit sandwich… 😕 Who the fuck is Dana White? Also (related to a different post entirely): It’s backPEDALED. Think of somebody on a tricycle who finds himself hesded ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/269 "2014-05-16T19:12:30Z")
…goddammed tiny-assed phone… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/270 "2014-05-16T19:15:27Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > For you personally, why is this an issue of race? ?? What? No. I tried to think of a star that dopers would all love. I know that a lot of white liberals love JS. Dopers are mostly white liberals. Do you follow that? Kaylasdad, thank you for the correction. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/271 "2014-05-16T19:35:46Z")
All right, then let’s pick someone must Dopers don’t like… Say Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is, excepting some strange circumstances, not criticizable for the content of his commercial sponsors. It just doesn’t work that way. It’s editorial content vs advertising content, and those things live in different world. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/272 "2014-05-16T20:10:56Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > ?? What? No. I tried to think of a star that dopers would all love. I know that a lot of white liberals love JS. Dopers are mostly white liberals. Do you follow that? Yep - that you viewed negativity in this thread towards Oprah as race-based and decided that a bogus criticism of Jon Stewart would “show them”. :dubious: I’m surprised that Dr. Oz defenders haven’t showed up to proclaim that he’s being attacked because of his Turkish background. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/273 "2014-05-16T20:29:51Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > All right, then let’s pick someone must Dopers don’t like… Say Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is, excepting some strange circumstances, not criticizable for the content of his commercial sponsors. It just doesn’t work that way. It’s editorial content vs advertising content, and those things live in different world. Ok. I think there are levels to this shit though. It is a matter of degree. I don’t think Oprah is DIRECTLY responsible for her gullible audience sucking up McCarthy’s horseshit, but she is MORE responsible than JS is for his sponsors. But, I still think that anyone who finds her VERY responsible should admit he is LESSER so, but responsible nevertheless. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/274 "2014-05-16T20:30:58Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Yep - that you viewed negativity in this thread towards Oprah as race-based and decided that a bogus criticism of Jon Stewart would “show them”. :dubious: > > I’m surprised that Dr. Oz defenders haven’t showed up to proclaim that he’s being attacked because of his Turkish background. This is bullshit. You want badly to find evidence of me playing the race card and you have no evidence of it. At all. I stated very clearly that I needed an example of a celebrity that dopers love, as opposed to ones that they hate (say, Rush Limbaugh). I am disgusted to see you scrounge to make me come off as racist. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/275 "2014-05-16T20:33:06Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > This is bullshit. You want badly to find evidence of me playing the race card and you have no evidence of it. At all. > > I stated very clearly that I needed an example of a celebrity that dopers love, as opposed to ones that they hate (say, Rush Limbaugh). I am disgusted to see you scrounge to make me come off as racist. Wow. You’re right, all we have is this entire thread full of your posts and you admitting you chose Jon Stewart (and Colbert) as examples because they’re white. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/276 "2014-05-16T20:48:48Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > You’re right, all we have is this entire thread full of your posts and you admitting you chose Jon Stewart (and Colbert) as examples because they’re white. This is ridiculous. Is this what Oprah reduces you to?? Pretending that I’m a racist? I think most people have some racial issues, so I’m no exception. But I have demonstrated NONE of that in this thread. I am rarely shocked at how dishonest people can be when their little feelings get hurt. But this is just sad. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/277 "2014-05-16T21:05:51Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yes, the local news showing coca cola ads are promoting childhood obesity. Throwing in the flood victims is just taking your own absurd condemnations of Oprah one step further. Who gives a fuck if MOST of JS’s commercials are for other programming. Shut the fuck up with that irrelevant smoke screen. The point remains no matter how hard you suck JS off to cloud it. Celebs are indirectly connected to gullible viewers being suckered into shit that’s bad for them. If you condemn Oprah, condemn the rest of them. Hey, I just work with the idiocy you give me. Don’t blame me if your points are asinine or irrelevant. And by the way, I _do_ condemn “the rest of them”, meaning anyone who uses their celebrity to make the world a worse place. As she does, in my estimation. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/278 "2014-05-16T21:21:53Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > Hey, I just work with the idiocy you give me. Don’t blame me if your points are asinine or irrelevant. > > And by the way, I _do_ condemn “the rest of them”, meaning anyone who uses their celebrity to make the world a worse place. As she does, in my estimation. And that’s fair. If you condemn the rest…that is fair enough. Now let me ask you. Out of the idiocy I gave you in this thread. You found racism? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/279 "2014-05-16T21:36:20Z")
It’s been a while since we’ve had a good ol’-fashioned frothing, raving meltdown. You never can tell when they’re going to pop up. I had no idea you were this phenomenally stupid, Nzinga. Thanks for the education. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433/280 "2014-05-16T21:39:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Can we maybe compromise? Say, a miserable death surrounded by sycophants? We already tried sending her on a cross-country car trip with Gayle. She’s unkillable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-dr-oz-sink-any-lower/688433.md?page=15)