It really has nothing to do with either of those things. I was an Oprah admirer for years. She’s clearly brilliant, amazingly good at what she does. I just…have lost respect for her. No need to burn anyone at the stake, but I wish she would give some critical thinking to some of the stuff she promotes. I wish she would ask herself what some of the possible consequences might be of her recommendations. I personally wouldn’t recommend her show, or the shows she produces now that hers is over, because I don’t think they give responsible advice. I think Dr. Phil is pandering and exploits people. I think Dr. Oz puts the weight of his medical degree and license behind very questionable practices. I think Oprah herself has given platforms to celebrities who say dangerous things about stuff they know very little about. It’s…not good TV, in my opinion.
This response is hard to condemn.
Dr. Oz is also allowing Mercola to write articles for the Dr. Oz website.
Here’s a couple as a sample.
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/triple-your-fat-loss?video_id=3193383039001
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/joe-mercola-alternative-health-guide?page=2
Oprah isn’t supernatural. She’s just a gullible person who has more influence than she can safely handle.
The problem is that a lot…and I mean A LOT, of people do worship her as if she is supernatural. Muddies things up a bit, I think, when it comes to painting her as the devil.
That’s…really, really bad. Dr. Oz should be embarrassed.
She might be gullible but she’s not stupid. She knows how to produce entertainment that satisfies her audience and keeps the money coming in. Which is not unlike most media moguls.
Is this another “I’m pulling shit out of my ass just to prove a point!” statement, or do you have a cite?
Unfortunately ( and I’m a cynic) I think that it is something much more sinister than that. I think that she simply cares more for enriching herself and making herself more well-known than she does for the people who may be harmed by the positions that she takes. And she is able to find people (Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil among them) who are also more interested in profits than hard facts.
You are disappointing me today. You want a cite that I think the idiots who watch her show and buy The Secret and give testimony with tears in their eyes worship her? I know your feels are hurt by knowing you can’t have it both ways. Either she has this amazing influence over other adults who should know better or she doesn’t. Well, she does. And I find it fascinating.
Rage?:dubious:
Stoidal Adventures with Fonts is emphasis driven by frustration, never rage. (In fact, on the vanishingly rare occasions when I have felt true rage in an exchange on these boards, which last happened about 12 years ago, I didn’t get very fontastic at all… nor do I in real life. I’m like my mother that way… it’s when I get quiet and controlled that I am truly angry.) I save my rage for technology.
Capitals, exclamation points, bold, color, underline, italic… all tools of emphasis.
In typography, emphasis is the exaggeration of words in a text with a font in a different style from the rest of the text—to emphasize them.
The most common methods in Western typography fall under the general technique of emphasis through a change or modification of font: italics, boldface and small caps. Other methods include the alteration of letter case and spacing as well as color and additional graphic marks.
em·pha·sis
[em-fuh-sis]
noun, plural em·pha·ses
[em-fuh-seez]
- special stress laid upon, or importance attached to, anything: The president’s statement gave emphasis to the budgetary crisis.
2.something that is given great stress or importance: Morality was the emphasis of his speech.
3.Rhetoric .
a.special and significant stress of voice laid on particular words or syllables.
b.stress laid on particular words, by means of position, repetition, or other indication.
4.intensity or force of expression, action, etc.: Determination lent emphasis to his proposals.
5.prominence, as of form or outline: The background detracts from the emphasis of the figure.
To discern the purpose for the emphasis, the most obvious place to look is at the content of what is being emphasized and the context. Simply assuming that emphasis is only employed in the service of rage is silly, not the least reason being that it is rarely true, not only of me, but of anyone. Frustration and excitement are the two most frequent reasons, in my observation. (Frustration can morph into rage, certainly, but the degree of typographical emphasis employed is not a reliable indicator of that having happened or not.)
Read this.
Dr. Oz is also allowing Mercola to write articles for the Dr. Oz website.
Here’s a couple as a sample.
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/triple-your-fat-loss?video_id=3193383039001
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/joe-mercola-alternative-health-guide?page=2
Dr. Oz comes off as reasonable in all that. In the second link, he recommends some vitamins in amounts less than 100% of the recommended allowance. In the third link, he lists some of Mercola’s positions and then his own. For instance, Mercola is against flu shots and Oz lists the reasons he thinks in beneficial.
I’m not seeing any endorsing of woo or advocating of woo or profiting from woo (except indirectly via ratings) from Oz.
Rage?:dubious:
Stoidal Adventures with Fonts is emphasis driven by frustration, never rage. (In fact, on the vanishingly rare occasions when I have felt true rage in an exchange on these boards, which last happened about 12 years ago, I didn’t get very fontastic at all… nor do I in real life. I’m like my mother that way… it’s when I get quiet and controlled that I am truly angry.) I save my rage for technology.
Capitals, exclamation points, bold, color, underline, italic… all tools of emphasis.
To discern the purpose for the emphasis, the most obvious place to look is at the content of what is being emphasized and the context. Simply assuming that emphasis is only employed in the service of rage is silly, not the least reason being that it is rarely true, not only of me, but of anyone. Frustration and excitement are the two most frequent reasons, in my observation. (Frustration can morph into rage, certainly, but the degree of typographical emphasis employed is not a reliable indicator of that having happened or not.)
I think based on this that you are unaware that your Adventures with Fonts tends to obscure your points, rather than making them clearer. More judicious use may help.
I would just like the record to show that I agree with Stoid’s craziness or retardation or whatever you guys want to call it concerning Oprah. But NOT concerning fonts and colors and bolding. I only used the caps as sarcasm, dammit!
In her early days, she started with the journalistic critical approach of Donahue, but her ratings and appeal were limited until her show changed to a personal Oprah-interest platform.
This would be the reverse of the truth.
The show was number one in the talk show ratings since its debut. The show boasts many years as the highest rated program in daytime television. Even with the constant stiff competition from her chief daytime ratings rival Judge Judy, Oprah still maintained a consistent lead over other talk shows.[93]
Furthermore, it’s very generous to call what they were doing a "journalistic critical approach":
Host Phil Donahue began to push the envelope with the discussion of topics deemed to be taboo, such as atheism and homosexuality. Donahue also distinguished himself from traditional talk shows by being the first to get off the stage, and take his microphone directly into the studio audience. For over a decade, The Phil Donahue Show was the only show of this kind; tabloid talk shows were not described as a genre, lucrative industry, or counterculture movement until 1986, when a relatively unknown 32-year-old woman named Oprah Winfrey became the first broadcaster able to challenge Donahue in the ratings. The Oprah Winfrey Show quickly doubled Donahue’s audience, as her personal confessions and focus on therapy were seen by many as redefining the format.
Winfrey continued Donahue’s pattern of exploring topics that were at the time considered taboo. For an entire hour in the 1980s, members of the studio audience stood up one by one, gave their name and announced that they were gay. Also in the 1980s, Winfrey took her show to West Virginia to confront a town gripped by AIDS paranoia because a gay man living in the town had HIV. Winfrey interviewed the man who had become a social outcast, the town’s mayor who drained the swimming pool because the man had gone swimming, and debated the town’s hostile residents. “But I hear this is a God fearing town,” Winfrey scolded the homophobic studio audience, “Where’s all that Christian love and understanding?” During a show on gay marriage in the 1990s, a woman in Winfrey’s audience stood up to complain that gays were constantly flaunting their sex lives and she announced that she was tired of it. “You know what I’m tired of,” replied Winfrey, “heterosexual males raping and sodomizing young girls. That’s what I’m tired of.” Her rebuttal inspired a screaming standing ovation from that show’s studio audience.
Guests on The Oprah Winfrey Show included Neo-Nazis, polygamous men and their partners, and Black and Jewish activists. By the fourth season, a show was dedicated to guests who claimed they had seen Elvis Presley alive in a variety of different locations throughout the country, with one man revealing to the host that he talked to the singer in his local Burger King. Oprah’s best friend, the former news anchor and talk show host Gayle King, said during an A&E profile on Winfrey in 2003 that when they recently looked back at an episode list of the first six seasons, Oprah could not believe she used to host such provocative shows. With titles such as “I’m a Cross-Dresser” and “Priestly Sins”, King believed the topics “didn’t seem so sleazy” when Oprah did them.
She actually* lost *ratings when she first made her changes, which didn’t come until after she had crushed all competition for years:
By the mid-1990s, she had reinvented her show with a focus on literature, self-improvement, and spirituality. Though criticized for unleashing a confession culture, promoting controversial self-help ideas,[20] and an emotion-centered approach[21] she is often praised for overcoming adversity to become a benefactor to others.
In the early years of The Oprah Winfrey Show, the program was classified as a tabloid talk show. In the mid-1990s, Winfrey adopted a less tabloid-oriented format, hosting shows on broader topics such as heart disease, geopolitics, spirituality and meditation, interviewing celebrities on social issues they were directly involved with, such as cancer, charity work, or substance abuse, and hosting televised giveaways including shows where every audience member received a new car (donated by General Motors) or a trip to Australia (donated by Australian tourism bodies).
So there’s that.
That anyone can reduce Oprah’s 25 years on television to giving Jenny McCarthy a platform and conclude she’s a worthless cunt therefore says so much more about the people who would say that than about Oprah herself, and that you don’t even realize it is simply amazing.
I think based on this that you are unaware that your Adventures with Fonts tends to obscure your points, rather than making them clearer. More judicious use may help.
Only for the people who choose to focus on that, and those people aren’t interested in having an honest understanding of my points to begin with.
To discern the purpose for the emphasis, the most obvious place to look is at the content of what is being emphasized and the context. Simply assuming that emphasis is only employed in the service of rage is silly, not the least reason being that it is rarely true, not only of me, but of anyone. Frustration and excitement are the two most frequent reasons, in my observation. (Frustration can morph into rage, certainly, but the degree of typographical emphasis employed is not a reliable indicator of that having happened or not.)
Your “tools of emphasis” have frequently made you look like an insane person.
In the event that you disagree with that characterization, Ms. Spock-on-a-Yoga-Mat, you may wish to revise your style guide lest the world you are addressing continue to form the wrong impression. It would be an unforgivable loss if your nuggets of wisdom were mistaken for a different, arguably less valuable kind of nugget.
Only for the people who choose to focus on that, and those people aren’t interested in having an honest understanding of my points to begin with.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
Your “tools of emphasis” have frequently made you look like an insane person.
In the event that you disagree with that characterization, Ms. Spock-on-a-Yoga-Mat, you may wish to revise your style guide lest the world you are addressing continue to form the wrong impression. It would be an unforgivable loss if your nuggets of wisdom were mistaken for a different, arguably less valuable kind of nugget.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
Your contributions are duly noted.
I think you’re actually trying to solve a completely different problem using emphasis. Your writing is extremely dense and I think often times your points get lost in all the text. So, knowing that people tend to miss your points, you use emphasis to try to make them clearer. So, you have dense text, now messed up with a lot of font nonsense. It makes it even harder to read and more confusing.
And I am telling you that as someone who has honestly and truly tried to understand your points and has often given up. So take that for what it’s worth.