# Can ghosts be scientifically proved to exist?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [September 30, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917 "2004-09-30T20:25:58Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2004, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/381 "2004-10-23T11:18:21Z")
Sorry, stickshift, your buddy has denied you access to polling.
Wonder why?
Guess he doesn’t want you to look too bad.
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### Author:  [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/382 "2004-10-23T11:37:04Z")
Your pet moderator seems to have fulfilled your wishes. He has denied polling in the “polling forum” – just for you!
> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Though I’d be equally satisfied if you dropped the personal attacks altogether and if you choose to respond to me at all, you do so on my specific points.
You first. You never responded adequately to my first point. That you can’t assume “suggestion” would not affect PSI.
Why do you assume that?
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2004, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/383 "2004-10-23T11:39:25Z")
Sour grapes won’t prove your case any more than ad hominem attacks, I’m afraid.
Though at this point, it’s starting to look like one thread (probably this one as it currently has fewer contributers) should be closed or allowed to die. If you’re going to insist on cross-posting, the threads become indistinguishable so we don’t really need both. It’s kind of a pity, because a discussion on the theoretical physics of ghosts (I think they violate thermodynamics) could have been interesting.
Anyway, for simplicity, I’ll just move my efforts over there.
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### Author:  [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2004, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/384 "2004-10-23T11:52:47Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#):
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> You never responded adequately to my first point. That you can’t assume “suggestion” would not affect PSI.
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> Why do you assume that?
Looks like you’re trying to escape the question again! I consider that proof (after five challenges unmet) that MY point is proven!
You got proof otherwise ???
I didn’t think so.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [October 23, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/385 "2004-10-23T14:29:44Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#):
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> Your pet moderator seems to have fulfilled your wishes. He has denied polling in the “polling forum” – just for you!
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> You first. You never responded adequately to my first point. That you can’t assume “suggestion” would not affect PSI.
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> Why do you assume that?
1. What you tried to start in IMHO wasn’t a “poll”.
2. He didn’t ask for a poll in the first place.
3.[moderator underoos on for those who refuse to take broad hints]For the last time, I am telling you to confine your petty sniping and personal attacks to The BBQ Pit.[/moderator underoos on for those who refuse to take broad hints.]
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### Author:  [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/386 "2004-10-25T22:15:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 3.[moderator underoos on for those who refuse to take broad hints]
Cute. 😉
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### Author:  [@zwaldd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zwaldd)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2004, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/387 "2004-10-26T01:22:13Z")
> [@Kythereia](#):
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> how could I prove–scientifically, concretely, absolutely, 100% beyond a doubt–that I have a ghost in my room throwing a lamp?
I’m just drivin’ by so I’ll read the debate later. My answer: Define ‘ghost’ in objective, demonstrable terms, then invite impartial observers in for a demonstration.
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### Author:  [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-ghosts-be-scientifically-proved-to-exist/266917/388 "2004-10-29T22:44:29Z")
Oh boo.
Why did this happen.
You see, this is what I was trying to ask in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=275396&highlight=ghosts) made about 3 weeks before this one was made…and I was more or less disagreed with at every angle.
Where were all of you when I made the thread, hmm? 😛
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