# Can humans taste sodium?

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**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [May 15, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258 "2004-05-15T09:38:24Z")
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### Author: ![aeropl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f05b48/32.png) [@aeropl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aeropl)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/1 "2004-05-15T09:38:24Z")

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I just read an offhand reference that Na alone doesn’t taste like anything, and that it must be NaCl to taste salty. I had thought that [taste](http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/T/Taste.html) receptors used Na+ ions to determine the salty taste.  
So what would happen if you licked a slab of sodium metal? Would it be salty?

The reason I ask is because I see that some canned food has loads of sodium, yet they don’t taste salty to me. I don’t know why because salt is usually listed in the ingredients.

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### Author: ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/2 "2004-05-15T09:51:00Z")

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> [@aeropl](#):
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> So what would happen if you licked a slab of sodium metal? Would it be salty?

Well, I can’t speak for the taste, but from the [Material Safety Data Sheet](http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/s2594.htm), my guess is that it would be “hot”.

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> 1. Hazards Identification  
> Emergency Overview
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> * * *
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> DANGER! FLAMMABLE SOLID. CORROSIVE. WATER REACTIVE. CATCHES FIRE IF EXPOSED TO AIR. HARMFUL OR FATAL IF SWALLOWED. HARMFUL IF INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. CONTACT MAY CAUSE BURNS TO ALL BODY TISSUE.
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> ## J.T. Baker SAF-T-DATA™ Ratings (Provided here for your convenience)
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> ## Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Poison) Flammability Rating: 3 - Severe (Flammable) Reactivity Rating: 3 - Severe (Water Reactive) Contact Rating: 4 - Extreme (Corrosive) Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES; CLASS D EXTINGUISHER Storage Color Code: Red Stripe (Store Separately)
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> ## Potential Health Effects
> 
> Inhalation:  
> Inhalation produces damaging effects on the mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract. Symptoms may include irritation of the nose and throat, and labored breathing. May cause lung edema, a medical emergency.  
> Ingestion:  
> Extremely dangerous, corrosive material. Will react immediately with saliva to cause serious burns and possible local combustion and even explosion of hydrogen in the mouth or esophagus. The metal’s low melting point can cause further complications.  
> Skin Contact:  
> Corrosive, can cause serious burns due to almost immediate reaction with water, especially on moist skin. If metal ignites, very deep burns and tissue destruction can occur.  
> Eye Contact:  
> Corrosive. May cause redness, pain, blurred vision, and damage from severe alkali burns.  
> Chronic Exposure:  
> Continued or repeated skin contact may cause dermatitis, mucous membrane irritation, and lung damage…  
> Aggravation of Pre-existing Conditions:  
> No information found.

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### Author: ![Tuco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tuco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuco)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/3 "2004-05-15T09:51:12Z")

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If you licked a slab of Sodium it would ignite immediately and burn a hole through your tongue.  
Can’t help with the actual question though, but you are correct in saying it’s Sodium that sets off one of the taste receptors on your tongue (as does glutamate, hence monosodium glutamate is used to make your want to eat more of stuff).

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### Author: ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/4 "2004-05-15T14:10:40Z")

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Been a long time since my chemistry days, but wouldn’t the fact that elemental sodium is not ionic have a bearing on whether our Na+ taste receptors would pick it up?

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### Author: ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/5 "2004-05-15T14:28:44Z")

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Elemental sodium is an extremely reactive substance and is not found anywhere in nature. When you combine sodium and water, you get an explosion, so if elemental sodium hit the saliva of your tongue, you’d be feeling big pain!

It also doesn’t last very long in the air, either. Usually you store it under some type of oil.

(Possible urban legend: college kids throw a chunk of elemental sodium into swimming pool and watch the fireworks. My HS chem teacher told us this one.)

Other dopers please confirm: NaCl tastes like salt on the tongue (duh), but other salts like KCl taste basically the same.

It is sodium in the salt form that imparts the salty taste; not the Na itself.

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### Author: ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/6 "2004-05-15T15:58:07Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Elemental sodium is an extremely reactive substance and is not found anywhere in nature. When you combine sodium and water, you get an explosion, so if elemental sodium hit the saliva of your tongue, you’d be feeling big pain!
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> It also doesn’t last very long in the air, either. Usually you store it under some type of oil.
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> (Possible urban legend: college kids throw a chunk of elemental sodium into swimming pool and watch the fireworks. My HS chem teacher told us this one.)

In high school, we played around with throwing chunks of potassium and sodium into water…plus exposing phosphorus to air. Fun stuff. The potassium, despite supposedly being the more reactive of the two, merely sizzled and caused the water to boil. The sodium, however, sizzled, boiled, ignited, then blasted itself into the ceiling.

It didn’t seem to have any problem in air, merely forming a dull layer of sodium oxide on the outside. The phosphorus, however, was a little more exciting…

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/7 "2004-05-15T16:03:05Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> It is sodium in the salt form that imparts the salty taste; not the Na itself.

Let’s rephrase that, shall we? Na _is_ sodium.

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### Author: ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/8 "2004-05-15T16:55:08Z")

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Since sodium would dissociate water to form sodium hydroxide and hydrogen, and since NaOH is a base; and since bases are bitter; I’d say it would taste bitter.

Very hot and bitter.

And it would be the last thing you’d ever taste.

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### Author: ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/9 "2004-05-15T17:23:51Z")

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[Serious fun with sodium and water.](http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/011.2/index.html)

The rest of this Web site is also worth extensive exploration. Highly recommended!

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#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/10 "2004-05-15T18:13:30Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Other dopers please confirm: NaCl tastes like salt on the tongue (duh), but other salts like KCl taste basically the same.

Not quite the same. KCl and NH[sub]4[/sub]Cl do not taste like NaCl. They all taste salty, but Na[sup]+[/sup] also stimulates the sweet receptors, and that I think is what gives sodium salts their distinctive flavor.

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### Author: ![Reno\_Nevada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/11 "2004-05-15T18:35:24Z")

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It tastes like…BURNING!

(I can’t believe I am the first with that answer)

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### Author: ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/12 "2004-05-16T02:34:03Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Elemental sodium is an extremely reactive substance and is not found anywhere in nature. When you combine sodium and water, you get an explosion, so if elemental sodium hit the saliva of your tongue, you’d be feeling big pain!

Tangentially related trivia: some of the early nuclear-reactor powered submarines used liquid sodium as the coolant.

Now _that’s_ dicing with death. Let’s go dive hundreds of feet under the ocean’s surface with a big tub of radioactive metal that explodes when it contacts water! Really! It’ll be fun!! And we can juggle hand grenades while we’re down there!

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/13 "2004-05-16T02:38:27Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> In high school, we played around with throwing chunks of potassium and sodium into water…plus exposing phosphorus to air. Fun stuff. The potassium, despite supposedly being the more reactive of the two, merely sizzled and caused the water to boil. The sodium, however, sizzled, boiled, ignited, then blasted itself into the ceiling.
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> It didn’t seem to have any problem in air, merely forming a dull layer of sodium oxide on the outside. The phosphorus, however, was a little more exciting…

My high school chem teacher was wondering how all those tiny burn holes got in the ceiling tiles once after he had left us alone in the lab after school hours . . .

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### Author: ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/14 "2004-05-16T03:43:46Z")

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Hijack Alert,

How much sodium is ideal for daily human intake? Why are all the most convient foods a 21 year old male likes high in Sodium? Is this that much of a big deal?

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### Author: ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/15 "2004-05-16T05:47:22Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> (Possible urban legend: college kids throw a chunk of elemental sodium into swimming pool and watch the fireworks. My HS chem teacher told us this one.)

Its not an urban legend. Our chem teacher did that with potassium. She had a large bowl filled with water, droped a chunk of the material in, and covered it. After a few seconds, a loud BANG was heared and the cover flew in the air.

According to her, potassium is highly reactive, and absorbs oxygen from the water at a very fast rate. That reactions releases loads of hydrogen, which is quite explosive.

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#### Post date: [May 16, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-humans-taste-sodium/245258/16 "2004-05-16T05:54:40Z")

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> [@Dog80](#):
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> According to her, potassium is highly reactive, and absorbs oxygen from the water at a very fast rate. That reactions releases loads of hydrogen, which is quite explosive.

Eh, not exactly. The reaction is 2K(s) + 2H[sub]2[/sub]O =\> 2KOH(aq) + H[sub]2/sub. You’re correct about the hydrogen gas. The reaction is highly exothermic, and the released heat is enough to ignite it in the presence of atmospheric O[sub]2[/sub].
