# Can I be the only person stunned at just how badly President Joe Biden is doing? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851 "2021-08-31T19:33:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/735 "2021-12-27T04:19:02Z")
There’s a huge difference between a protest about racial inequality and storming a government building in an attempt to overturn an election that you dislike the result of, while people are chanting to lynch one of the elected people. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/736 "2021-12-27T05:03:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I know, I know, the scary events of that one day in January has overshadowed months and months of news and videos of politically motivated unrest and violence. 🤨 Well, yeah, of course the events of January 6 overshadow the politically motivated unrest and violence of the two months that preceded it; it was being broadcast live for the world to see, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/737 "2021-12-27T05:32:37Z")
That’s why I get so confused about modern conservatives. They seem to lack the critical thinking necessary to realize that attempting to overthrow the government is light years _worse_ than protesting inequality in how the police treat Black Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/738 "2021-12-27T06:40:48Z")
Also: protesting police brutality isn’t usually a _political_ position. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/739 "2021-12-27T07:20:44Z")
And, before it’s suggested otherwise, I do _not_ condone rioting, looting, arson, violence, or any other crime committed during the BLM protests. The perpetrators of those activities should be held for trial, and receive the appropriate punishment afforded under the law. Likewise, I don’t condone people storming our government buildings for disruptive purposes, including trying to halt election certification or building a gallows and chanting about hanging Mike Pence. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/740 "2021-12-27T09:34:11Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I do _not_ condone rioting, looting, arson, violence, or any other crime committed during the BLM protests. The perpetrators of those activities should be held for trial, and receive the appropriate punishment afforded under the law. > > Likewise, I don’t condone people storming our government buildings for disruptive purposes, including trying to halt election certification or building a gallows and chanting about hanging Mike Pence. I agree with both of these sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/741 "2021-12-27T17:16:25Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > That’s why I get so confused about modern conservatives. They seem to lack the critical thinking necessary to realize that attempting to overthrow the government is light years _worse_ than protesting inequality in how the police treat Black Americans. To them, there isn’t any difference and no amount of “logic” or “critical thinking” will ever make them change their minds. “Worse” is a judgment call and they have none. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/742 "2021-12-27T18:02:21Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It’s a cite for those people supposedly unfamiliar with Summer of Love happening in CHAZ/CHOP during the much celebrated riots and protests. I don’t think anyone Is buying into your donkey-show. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/743 "2021-12-27T19:07:59Z")
_Skewed_ donkey-show, in the same vein as the three blind guys trying to describe an elephant. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/744 "2021-12-27T20:02:10Z")
I never meant to make good people, most of whom I consider friends, throw up behind the garage with the visual manifestation of Octocry’s Theology and Ideology. In a perfect Chicago World, you’d invite us both to a house party, throw us both into the basement, and turn up the stereo for a few hours. Any lumps I’d take, I’d wear proudly. ( But I’d also try to make more Chicago connections too. There’s someone whom I owe serious money in Chicago and I won’t be off the barbed meat-hook until he’s paid… In Cash… no handling fees. Not even two dollars. ) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/745 "2021-12-29T10:13:35Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m not sure that’s a freedom-of-speech concern: in your capacity as a private citizen, you can still say all kinds of stuff; but if you’re on the payroll, you’ll — stick to saying what you get _paid_ to stick to saying? Yeah, that’s not Orwellian at all, especially when the topic is “teaching children”. THEY’RE BANNING ACTUAL WORDS. [https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/574567-woke-multiculturalism-equity-wisconsin-gop-proposes-banning-words-from](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/574567-woke-multiculturalism-equity-wisconsin-gop-proposes-banning-words-from) > [@octopus](#): > > I know, I know, the scary events of that one day in January has overshadowed months and months of news and videos of politically motivated unrest and violence. But that isn’t it since even during those events the rioting and criminality were ignored or excused because it was politically/ideologically inconvenient. But, for anyone paying honest attention to the news, the events that occurred during the summer of love aren’t some mysterious event that occurred in the 60s. That’s just bizarre. Well sure, if you ignore all the right-wing violence over the summer which (unlike anything on the left) was actively encouraged by Republican politicians (up to and including the President) and the attempt to kidnap and “put on trial” a Democratic governor (which the President refused to condemn) and the attacks on Biden supporters and election officials (praised and encouraged by the right) and the fact that there is an increasing amount of evidence that the events of January 6 were actively and deliberately planned and supported by Republicans including quite a lot of current members of Congress…then you can arrive at your Preferred Narrative of how the left are the real threat to this country and the main instigators of partisan violence. ---
**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/746 "2022-01-20T19:57:35Z")
[Another blistering Piers Morgan piece to mark Biden’s disastrous first year.](https://nypost.com/2022/01/19/dear-joe-your-first-years-been-a-total-disaster/) ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/747 "2022-01-20T20:00:35Z")
Look who decided to come out of hiding! Say, if you see your shadow, does that mean Trump gets another term? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/748 "2022-01-20T20:01:46Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > [Another blistering Piers Morgan piece to mark Biden’s disastrous first year.](https://nypost.com/2022/01/19/dear-joe-your-first-years-been-a-total-disaster/) - You really need to stop reading Tucker Carlson’s lost twin brother. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/749 "2022-01-20T20:01:58Z")
Piers Morgan, that’s the guy I find so insightful. Thanks for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/750 "2022-01-20T20:21:42Z")
Little did I know. I thought his specialty was the British Royal family, with a special emphasis on the bad things Harry and Meghan do… ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/751 "2022-01-20T20:27:49Z")
I was about to ask: Has Creepy Piers Morgan stopped stalking and sexually harassing Meghan yet…? ( If they hadn’t renounced yada-yada-yada, wouldn’t he have been drawn and quartered by now? ) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/752 "2022-01-20T20:49:31Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m not sure that’s a freedom-of-speech concern: in your capacity as a private citizen, you can still say all kinds of stuff; but if you’re on the payroll, you’ll — stick to saying what you get _paid_ to stick to saying? The government shall not pass laws to abridge freedom of speech. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/753 "2022-01-20T20:54:42Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You really need to stop reading Tucker Carlson’s lost twin brother. Is anyone other than [Rupert Murdoch](https://www.thewrap.com/piers-morgan-blasts-meghan-markle-cancel-culture-ahead-of-new-column/) paying him? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/754 "2022-01-20T21:08:28Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The government shall not pass laws to abridge freedom of speech. It gets trickier when the government is also an employer, though. The government can’t pass a law making it illegal to promote Holocaust denial, but the public school can fire someone for teaching it to their history students. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851.md?page=38)