# Can I be the only person stunned at just how badly President Joe Biden is doing? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851 "2021-08-31T19:33:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/775 "2022-01-21T22:13:01Z")
Michael Moore is probably unelectable outside of Michigan. His first documentary was his best. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/776 "2022-01-21T22:38:46Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > Michael Moore is of course watching, and I have felt for some time that he will launch a primary challenge to Biden in 2024. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iGLXMKUWkJE/hqdefault.jpg "[Futurama] ▶ Bender - LOL! Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder! LOLOLOL!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGLXMKUWkJE) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/777 "2022-01-21T22:48:20Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > So you’ve met him? Joe Biden or Piers Morgan? Please be specific. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/778 "2022-01-21T23:18:21Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > I have felt for some time that he will launch a primary challenge to Biden in 2024. Come on. You KNOW that JFK is returning from the dead to reveal that he is a Republican, right? And I’ve been told that Michael Moore is playing a very long game, and plans to run in 2148. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/779 "2022-01-22T01:04:21Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > Michael Moore is of course watching, and I have felt for some time that he will launch a primary challenge to Biden in 2024. The next campaign may be his last realistic shot, and he must surely see that Biden is finished as a politician and the next election will just be too late. Here, class, is where the troll inevitably betrays himself. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/780 "2022-01-22T11:54:35Z")
Michael Moore 2024 … that’s made me laugh. If there ever was an opening for him to run for president (or any office for that matter) it was in the 2000s when George W. Bush was president and Moore was at his peak as a filmmaker venturing into political advocacy which won him awards and made him a thorn to the Republicans. He hasn’t done anything that matches those heights since Bush left office. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/781 "2022-01-22T14:42:57Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > Michael Moore is of course watching, and I have felt for some time that he will launch a primary challenge to Biden in 2024. Michael Moore? Seriously? Have you not left your home in 20 years? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/782 "2022-01-22T14:44:41Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > [@CHealy7](#): > > > > Michael Moore is of course watching, and I have felt for some time that he will launch a primary challenge to Biden in 2024. > > Michael Moore? Seriously? Have you not left your home in 20 years? - I doubt he’s left his basement in 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/783 "2022-01-22T14:53:29Z")
I can’t believe that even a handful of Trumpkins think that Michael Moore is a player in Democratic politics. This is an exceptionally stupid opinion. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/784 "2022-01-22T15:31:32Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I can’t believe that even a handful of Trumpkins think that Michael Moore is a player in Democratic politics. I can. > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > This is an exceptionally stupid opinion. They are exceptionally stupid people. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/785 "2022-01-22T16:06:10Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I can’t believe that even a handful of Trumpkins think that Michael Moore is a player in Democratic politics. He took over for Soros when the latter couldn’t deliver the goods, don’t 'cha know. ---
**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/786 "2022-01-22T20:21:24Z")
> [@CHealy7](#): > > Michael Moore I agree that that may have been his best chance. I posted something similar [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/44) almost five years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/787 "2022-01-22T20:28:09Z")
[quote=“CHealy7, post:786, topic:949851”] > [@CHealy7](#): > > Michael Moore > [/quote]_emphasized text_ > > I agree that that may have been his best chance. I Has anyone ever urged him to run for high office? This is what he said about it in 2018 > **[Michael Moore won’t run for office, but he thinks everyone else should](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2018/09/18/michael-moore-wont-run-for-office-but-he-thinks-everyone-else-should/)** > > The 64-year-old filmmaker was in town to promote his new documentary “Fahrenheit 11/9,” which is about Trump (but not all about Trump). > Oh. Um. You know I was the first [18-year-old elected in the state of Michigan](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-07-01-0706300500-story.html) when they lowered the voting age to 18. I ran for board of education because I wanted to fire the principal and the assistant principal. I won, and a year later they were gone. So I learned at an early age that if you got involved, you could effect change. Then I retired from politics at 22. Everybody should do it. You should do it. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/788 "2022-01-23T01:59:45Z")
If one were being charitable, they might think he was referring instead to [Mike Moore (American politician)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Moore_(American_politician)). Of course, then we have the problem of figuring out why he used the name “Michael Moore”, which seems guaranteed to cause confusion with the much-better known filmmaker. Oh, and also why he thinks a relatively obscure politician who apparently hasn’t done anything significant since 2004 would think a primary challenge to an incumbent President was in any way a good or sensible idea. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/789 "2022-01-23T03:09:45Z")
It’s hard to change the programming in a device with limited RAM? ( Bet some of them think Hillary is an elected official too… 🤫 ) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/790 "2022-01-23T04:08:34Z")
And it was just as asinine and moronic back then as it is now. Not something worth bragging about. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/791 "2022-01-23T04:57:05Z")
Someone needs to let CHealy7 know he’s reading from the 2002 republican talking points. He needs to get the 2022 version. Easy enough mistake. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/792 "2022-01-23T05:00:31Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Someone needs to let CHealy7 know he’s reading from the 2002 republican talking points. He needs to get the 2022 version. Easy enough mistake. - How are they different? ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/793 "2022-01-23T05:46:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > How are they different? Well I had no idea personally that Michael Moore was still a liberal boogeyman. I associate him more with the Bush years. Republicans these days seem more obsessed with trying to scare people with the prospect of an AOC presidency or something similar. Other than that, honestly, not much. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851/794 "2022-01-23T06:23:33Z")
Can I be the only person stunned at the fact that this thread hasn’t been merged into the SRIOTD thread? It would let us start SRIOTD Mk III and put this stinker out of its our misery in one swell foop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-be-the-only-person-stunned-at-just-how-badly-president-joe-biden-is-doing/949851.md?page=40)