# Can I bitch about Microsoft Edge? Please **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963 "2017-05-18T22:39:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/42 "2017-05-23T13:46:38Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I use uBlock Origin and strongly recommend it. > > I also use Firefox. Or Chrome. Or Vivaldi. **Because life’s too short to use a Microsoft browser.** That says it all, right there. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/43 "2017-06-04T20:20:55Z")
**Goddammit!** :mad: Adguard didn’t tell me this was a _free trial_! It expired yesterday, and everything came to a grinding halt. Fuck! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/44 "2017-06-04T20:46:35Z")
Switch to Ublock Origin, just added to Edge: > **[UBlock Origin comes to Microsoft Edge to improve its poor ecosystem of...](https://evolutionsofar.com/microsoft/ublock-origin-comes-to-microsoft-edge-to-improve-its-poor-ecosystem-of-extensions/)** > > The new Microsoft browser is one that is full of potential, and yet a year and a half after its release next to Windows 10, there are still many things we miss in it, specifically the extensions. In March we saw the first version of Microsoft Edge... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/45 "2017-06-05T16:41:56Z")
I use Chrome, but I honestly don’t understand why Chrome needs to create multiple copies of itself running at the same time. I guess it has to do with how many tabs I have open, but honestly, wouldn’t it be more efficient to just keep one big Chrome iteration running instead of starting new copies and then just leaving them running, filling up memory? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/46 "2017-06-05T21:39:06Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > **Goddammit!** :mad: > > Adguard didn’t tell me this was a _free trial_! It expired yesterday, and everything came to a grinding halt. > > Fuck! Damn. For three seconds I thought I wasn’t the only one who got a “Surprise Microsoft Edge Update” at 10pm EST last night. The damn thing over-rode my task manager and closed every unsaved item I had open. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/47 "2017-06-05T21:54:03Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I use Chrome, but I honestly don’t understand why Chrome needs to create multiple copies of itself running at the same time. I guess it has to do with how many tabs I have open, but honestly, wouldn’t it be more efficient to just keep one big Chrome iteration running instead of starting new copies and then just leaving them running, filling up memory? It’s complicated. But Chrome definitely uses a multiprocess model in order to work faster, at the expense of increase memory–though it tries to mitigate this in various ways, such as killing a process that hasn’t been used in a while (instantly freeing all its memory very quickly), and grouping some tabs together into the same process when it makes sense, like when they go to the same domain. Firefox’s big changeover (intended for Firefox 57) that breaks so many extensions is all about moving to the same model, albeit with a greater focus on keeping the memory costs down. (It’s supposed to support Chrome extensions instead, but, so far, it’s not done a good job, and they only have until November to get it worked out. Currently you have to still specifically modify the Chrome addons to work with Firefox, something I’ve never successfully been able to do with any addon I didn’t create.) I’m surprised Edge isn’t multiprocess. It was my understanding that everyone was moving to that model. Heck, I was hoping that Microsoft would update the task manager to treat all the processes as one giant one with many children, so you could easily close it down. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/48 "2017-06-05T22:17:34Z")
Yes, I hate MS Edge. And I can’t uninstall it, because it doesn’t even show up on the list of apps in the control panel. AND, it starts (and fails and delivers multiple error messages) every time I reboot the machine. AND I can’'t even figure out how to get it out of the startup routine. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/49 "2017-06-05T23:08:35Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I guess it has to do with how many tabs I have open, but honestly, wouldn’t it be more efficient to just keep one big Chrome iteration running instead of starting new copies and then just leaving them running, filling up memory? No? The RAM is there and a browser is an application that generally benefits the user by being snappy. Memory is well-managed these days, why not use it? It also makes sense to have multiple instances/whatever-they-are-called-these-days running as long as the application gracefully yields to more demanding processes, which ime Chrome is pretty good at. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/50 "2017-06-06T16:20:24Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Switch to Ublock Origin, just added to Edge: > [UBlock Origin comes to Microsoft Edge to improve its poor ecosystem of extensions | Life Evolves...get the latest news here](http://evolutionsofar.com/microsoft/ublock-origin-comes-to-microsoft-edge-to-improve-its-poor-ecosystem-of-extensions/) Couldn’t seem to get it to work. 😕 (Also, as of yesterday, my display seems to have “shrunk”. All the text seems smaller. I was wiping a bunch of dust off the machine, and hit the touch pad, and “poof”, small text. I went to settings, but nothing restores it. 😕 ) But, I tried a bunch of “free” adblockers and none seemed to have any effect. So, I thought, “I’ll uninstall Adguard, and see if I can re-sign up and get another 2 weeks free”. Uninstalled it, and I get a message, “Sorry to see you go! Here, have a free version” Okay! Downloaded and installed, and it seems to work. 😕 Why does all this shit have to be so hard? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/51 "2017-06-07T10:51:32Z")
For the text size thing: open the webpage where the text is tiny. Press the Ctrl key and use your mouse wheel to bring the size back up to normal. It’s the zoom, which happens to be set and remembered individually for each domain; you won’t find it in settings and it doesn’t go away by restarting, either. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/52 "2017-06-07T11:08:36Z")
I’ve only ever used edge by accident. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/53 "2017-06-07T12:38:32Z")
> [@naita](#): > > I’ve only ever used edge by accident. I did once, but I didn’t inhale. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963/54 "2017-06-07T16:51:43Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > For the text size thing: open the webpage where the text is tiny. Press the Ctrl key and use your mouse wheel to bring the size back up to normal. It’s the zoom, which happens to be set and remembered individually for each domain; you won’t find it in settings and it doesn’t go away by restarting, either. Awesome! I must have hit Ctrl when I was sweeping off the dust on the touch pad, and zoomed out. Thanks! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-bitch-about-microsoft-edge-please/786963.md?page=2)