# Can I have a little cheese with this whine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 30, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568 "2012-11-30T13:57:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/1 "2012-11-30T13:57:04Z")
Okay, in the last month I’ve been dealing with my wonderful dog Jake having bone cancer. My thoroughbred mare has an abscess from hell, that’s threatening to turn into white line disease. Vet out twice and the farrier out. My mutant mini has choked (3rd time for this) and had to have the vet out twice. Now two weeks ago I fostered a shih tzu mix a co-worker was threatening to euth because she was poorly house broken and yappy. I told him we could probably find the dog a home if I spend my week’s vacation at Thanksgiving trying to house train her. Two weeks later and she hasn’t had a single accident, isn’t yappy except for a few minutes when she’s crated until she settles down. She’s good with cats, dogs and horses. I’ve contacted a rescue to see if they could work at finding her a home while I fostered. Then I came home last night to find that one of my dogs had really nailed her. A trip to the emergency vet and an estimate of $700-$900 to patch her up. They’ve stabilized her this morning but haven’t put in the drains, etc. So now I have to hope I can transport her to my vet to have this done a little cheaper. Sheesh. I’m glad I have a hefty emergency fund. StG ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/2 "2012-11-30T15:43:48Z")
That’s a lot on one plate! Do you have any idea which of your dogs attacked the foster? Also, since I had no idea what it was: > [@](#): > > Despite its name, white line disease does not actually affect the true “white line” of the hoof. White line disease occurs when bacterial or fungal infections creep into the inner nonpigmented space within the inner hoof wall’s stratum medium layer. The infection slowly eats away the tissue, which turns into a chalky powder that spills out when scraped with a hoof pick. from [White Line Disease in Horses – The Horse](http://www.thehorse.com/articles/26820/white-line-disease-in-horses) ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/3 "2012-11-30T18:44:13Z")
Cheese? It really sux to be going through all that. I hope all the beasties will be ok. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/4 "2012-11-30T20:16:16Z")
Wow, that’s a whole lot of disasters in a short period of time. If I may ask, what do you mean your mini choked? I’ve never heard of this affliction. Is it something I should be watching for in my own ponies? Hope things get better soon for your beasties. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/5 "2012-11-30T21:13:43Z")
> [@Renee](#): > > Wow, that’s a whole lot of disasters in a short period of time. > > If I may ask, what do you mean your mini choked? I’ve never heard of this affliction. Is it something I should be watching for in my own ponies? Hope things get better soon for your beasties. **Renee** - Yeah, [choke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_%28horse%29) is where there’s an esophageal obstruction. They keep trying to eat and drink and more food blocks the esophagus. They can breathe - that’s a different pipe - but they can’t eat or drink. Dehydration is a real concern. You’ll usually see the horse coughing and frothing at the nose and mouth.The vet will put a naso-gastric tube down and break up the block, but it can cause aspiration (which happened to Daisy, just a bit) and pneumonia. It’s scary and should be considered an emergency. If your horse chokes, you can try to resolve it by flooding the throat with large syringefuls of water and massaging the throat. If that doesn’t work, you need to call the vet out. **purplehorseshoe** - Thanks for thinking of me, when you have so much going on in your own life. I do appreciate it. Daisy is a dwarf and has roached and hunched back (lordosis and scoliosis). She’s in her 20’s. The vet said dwarf minis rarely live past their teens, so I’m just going to try to give her the best life I can for whatever time she has left. StG ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/6 "2012-12-01T00:48:01Z")
On the white line… I can swear to the ability of CleanTrax to stop any and all fungal/bacteria infection in one (or at most two) treatments. Follow the directions. > **[25g - CleanTrax Hoof Cleaner](https://www.centaurforge.com/CleanTrax-Hoof-Cleaner-25g/productinfo/10701/)** > > pbA Real Solution/b/ppCleanTrax is a deep penetrating hoof cleanser proven effective in eliminating even the toughest infections, in most case with just a single application/ppDeveloped by a leading U.S. chemical company, this same unique material is... ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/7 "2012-12-01T03:50:58Z")
Sorry your zoo is having troubles, St Germain! I hope things go better next week. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/8 "2012-12-01T23:27:10Z")
Oh StG, I am so sorry for all that is happening to you and your critters. When it rains it pours. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/9 "2012-12-01T23:29:22Z")
I got Marley back from the vet last night. Many drains, moving very slowly, but moving. Ate a bit of wet food. She has to have 2 antibiotics and heparin shots for the next two days. I’m glad she made it. $800 glad, for a dog that isn’t even mine. StG ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/10 "2012-12-01T23:50:36Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > I got Marley back from the vet last night. Many drains, moving very slowly, but moving. Ate a bit of wet food. She has to have 2 antibiotics and heparin shots for the next two days. I’m glad she made it. $800 glad, for a dog that isn’t even mine. > > StG so what are you doing about the dog who tore her up? ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/11 "2012-12-28T20:54:04Z")
Daisy died last night. She never really recovered since her last choke. I had the vet out again, and she said that there just wasn’t much she go do at this point - her esophagus wasn’t blocked, but she probably had a hernia-like stricture. I was feeding her multiple meals of soaked pellets but she wasn’t eating much. I thought she was doing a little better, but went out to feed this morning and she was gone. RIP, my wee feisty pony. StG ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/12 "2012-12-28T21:07:46Z")
I’m sorry ☹ She certainly knew she was loved and cared for, lucky little girl. Choke is so scary, my old mare will every so often, and I hate it. How’s the little dog doing? ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/13 "2012-12-28T21:19:19Z")
I am so sorry to hear about all of your animals’ troubles. RIP Daisy. I am sure she appreciated all you did for her over the years. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/14 "2012-12-28T21:32:28Z")
Even worse news - my neighbor the cop came to haul her body to the road for the animal removal people and saw clear signs she was attacked by coyotes. They were very active and vocal last night, and he said they probably jumped the 4’ fence and got in with her. My dogs were going crazy so I kept them shut up in the house last night. **saje** - The little dog is doing fine and is now ready for a new home. She’s still with me, but the rescue I have her with said they thought she’d be in a new home within a couple weeks. **Brynda** - Thanks. I just feel sort of gutted. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop with Jake, but he’s doing okay. Not really putting weight on the cancerous leg, but still eating and goes out with the other dogs. StG ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/15 "2012-12-28T21:42:06Z")
**Brynda** - I need a distraction. Do you want to go to the movies this weekend? I’d like to see The Hobbit, Les Miserables or Lincoln. StG ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/16 "2012-12-28T23:40:24Z")
**StG.** Check your PMs. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/17 "2012-12-30T03:14:12Z")
Oh, StG, I am so sorry about little Daisy. I had not seen this till you mentioned it in my LuLu thread. There are no words. (((hugs))) ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/18 "2012-12-30T03:18:12Z")
I’m so very sorry to hear about Daisy. ---
**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/19 "2012-12-30T03:29:53Z")
☹ i’m sorry about Daisy. You’re a good owner for taking care of them all. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568/20 "2012-12-30T13:44:30Z")
I am sorry to hear of your loss. Sending supporting thoughts your way! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-have-a-little-cheese-with-this-whine/642568.md?page=2)