# Can I report these bastard for fraud?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 27, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902 "2014-01-27T23:16:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/81 "2014-01-30T15:54:37Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> You’re missing it. Go to Porn hub live\> click the yellow “join free” button at the top.
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> It’s right there under the big bold letters that say “Create your FREE account now”
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> As to the rest of your post, I’m not going to rehash this whole argument all over again **Bob**. At this point were just talking right past each other.

Would you have given your credit card number to them if you had seen the information I dug up on them first?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/82 "2014-01-30T16:06:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Would you have given your credit card number to them if you had seen the information I dug up on them first?

Probably not. I did this whole thing on a whim. Here’s how it went down.

I’m browsing the free website Pornhub, when all the sudden a pop up comes on for Pornhub Live, and on it, it’s showing a camgirl with the name of Amy Fisher. I’m thinking: “Amy Fisher? Is that the same Amy Fisher that shot that poor lady’s face off?” I found this to be both hilarious and intriguing. So curiosity got the better of me and I joined their stupid site.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/83 "2014-01-30T16:07:39Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> You’re missing it. Go to Porn hub live\> click the yellow “join free” button at the top.
> 
> It’s right there under the big bold letters that say “Create your FREE account now”
> 
> As to the rest of your post, I’m not going to rehash this whole argument all over again **Bob**. At this point were just talking right past each other.

Just went back and clicked that yellow button and it took me to the page to enter a username and email address (to receive a password). Nothing anywhere that says what you say it does. The only thing even close is “Join Now! It’s totally FREE!No credit card needed” but that’s not a lie, as I was clearly able to sign up without giving a credit card. The page where they ask for card info is pretty clearly marked that you’ll be charged. The screen caps are all right there for anyone to see.

It’s cool, man. We all make mistakes, especially when horniness is involved.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/84 "2014-01-30T16:15:03Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Just went back and clicked that yellow button and it took me to the page to enter a username and email address (to receive a password). Nothing anywhere that says what you say it does. The only thing even close is “Join Now! It’s totally FREE!No credit card needed” but that’s not a lie, as I was clearly able to sign up without giving a credit card. The page where they ask for card info is pretty clearly marked that you’ll be charged. The screen caps are all right there for anyone to see.
> 
> It’s cool, man. We all make mistakes, especially when horniness is involved.

I can’t do screen caps so here: NSFW!!

[https://secure.pornhublive.com/signup/?AFNO=1-595728-JD-3-0-437+1l1+mt1x1.2330659661.2.595728.338243.0+en+1&stno=1-630-829-3050-2073-2055&ald=](https://secure.pornhublive.com/signup/?AFNO=1-595728-JD-3-0-437+1l1+mt1x1.2330659661.2.595728.338243.0+en+1&stno=1-630-829-3050-2073-2055&ald=)

It’s right there at the top slightly to the right. On the left side of the page is where they ask for all your information.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/85 "2014-01-30T16:22:14Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> I can’t do screen caps so here: NSFW!!
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> It’s right there at the top slightly to the right. On the left side of the page is where they ask for all your information.

Got it. Weird. I’ll stand down on that point then.

It appears there are two completely separate PornHubLive sites? The one I did all the screen capping of is the one that pops up when you search for it, but appears to be based in the country of St. Pierre. It also appears to be much more legitimate/less sketchy than this one.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/86 "2014-01-30T22:15:25Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> … So curiosity got the better of me and I joined their stupid site.

_There_’s your problem, right there. Curiosity got the better of you, and your skepticism went right out the window. So you handed them your CC#, and the rest is history. Scammer history, but history nonetheless.

Taking advantage of people’s greed, _lust_ (porn site, after all), gluttony, or any of the other ‘7 deadly sins’ is a time-honored tradition of scammers.

" ‘Dog bites Man’, film not at 11, because my editor will fire me for such a ‘non-story’. " We need a :yawn: smilie.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/87 "2014-01-30T23:48:19Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> I can’t do screen caps so here: NSFW!!
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> [https://secure.pornhublive.com/signup/?AFNO=1-595728-JD-3-0-437+1l1+mt1x1.2330659661.2.595728.338243.0+en+1&stno=1-630-829-3050-2073-2055&ald=](https://secure.pornhublive.com/signup/?AFNO=1-595728-JD-3-0-437+1l1+mt1x1.2330659661.2.595728.338243.0+en+1&stno=1-630-829-3050-2073-2055&ald=)
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> It’s right there at the top slightly to the right. On the left side of the page is where they ask for all your information.

Uhhh… that page doesn’t ask for a CC#. It asks for:

Email:  
Password:  
Nickname:  
First name:  
Last name:  
Country:  
Street:  
City:  
State:  
Zip:

What did the page that _actually_ ask for your CC# say? Because that page wasn’t it.

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**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/88 "2014-01-31T04:06:05Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Uhhh… that page doesn’t ask for a CC#. It asks for:
> 
> Email:  
> Password:  
> Nickname:  
> First name:  
> Last name:  
> Country:  
> Street:  
> City:  
> State:  
> Zip:
> 
> What did the page that _actually_ ask for your CC# say? Because that page wasn’t it.

right hand side of page -

> [@](#):
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> Signing up is absolutely free, you will NOT be charged for your membership. We will only verify that your credit card is valid. You will NEVER be charged, unless you are entering any clearly marked paid area of the site.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/89 "2014-02-01T00:22:10Z")

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> [@madrabbitwoman](#):
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> right hand side of page -

Uhh…

OK, you’re right. There _is_ a place to enter a CC#.

I stand corrected. There _is_ a way for someone to stupidly punch in a CC#.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/90 "2014-02-01T06:02:01Z")

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Just had to update a bit. When doing my research I apparently went to the same site that Bob D. did. The legit one that doesn’t ask for a cc. So like Bob I’ll stand down a bit… a bit. I still contend that giving an Internet business a credit card # that they promise not to use is less than prudent.

However, all that said, Shakes did make good on his promise to pay for a membership subscription to the boards for me. I think that was very admirable and I appreciate it very much. Thank you, sir. I am enjoying my ad free browsing.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-report-these-bastard-for-fraud/679902/91 "2014-02-01T14:09:59Z")

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I think I did the same. I also agree with **PlainJain** ’s comment re providing a credit card for a “free” service. Can you report these bastards for fraud (the original OP)? In the best of all possible worlds maybe that would accomplish something. In our existing world all it would accomplish would be to provide humor to whoever you reported it to.

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