# Can I say I want video games to have a boob size slider without sounding like a pervert/misogynist? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 25, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781 "2018-05-25T06:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/1 "2018-05-25T06:28:00Z")
In this era of games that seem to boast “100% complete character customization” as a point of pride it’s shocking to me that modifying body type still is very much limited especially when it comes to chests (both men and womens but women are the most obvious for obvious reasons). Most games with character customization seem make chests for both sexes either skinny, regular, buff, or in certain cases fat, that’s it. In addition, boob size for women tends to be tied to those parameters but even “big” boobs (which generally are put on the fat frame) aren’t even that big comparatively. Because of this it makes designing female characters using inspiration from either other fictional properties or even real life people incredibly hard, since boob size is limited entirely to weight and as we know people come in all sizes. It also effects men too, you can make buff guys but they tend to be a single body type, you can’t make skinny in-shape guys since skinny tends to be almost skeletal skinny in games, you have to have “normal weight” as your base for making someone with pecs. I understand there’s some technical aspects to it (have to make clothes conform to the boob size after all) but it also seems like a bizarre moral issue as well since games that have boob size sliders tend to be either doing it for comedic purposes (Saints Row, where you can make boobs big to absurd degrees) or because it’s some weird sex games. You rarely see them in “normal” games since it seems like they think boob size sliders make the game less serious. That’s just my rant, anyone else feel this way? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/2 "2018-05-25T13:00:57Z")
I prefer to have one just because I generally prefer robust customization options. Although I’m not a fan of cartoon balloon breasts, sometimes my character concept is a little chestier and sometimes I like to go the other way for a lithe athletic look. City of Heroes had a slider and while, yes, you had people having 4’6" women with watermelon boobs, I appreciated the ability to fine tune my appearance. Black Desert Online has a slider as well which makes me wonder if it’s common for Asian MMOs (I think TERA did but don’t remember). As for “less serious”, I think the obvious answer is to place realistic limits on how far the slider can go. And, should anyone ask, I don’t care if they include a “package” slider for men. I think Saints Row 3/4 had one but if people want to make their bulge bulgier, more power to them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/3 "2018-05-25T20:30:27Z")
My first thought on reading the title was that a slider is much smaller than a human female breast, and that a “boob size slider” would be more properly referred to as a jumbo burger. ---
**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/4 "2018-05-25T20:45:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > My first thought on reading the title was that a slider is much smaller than a human female breast, and that a “boob size slider” would be more properly referred to as a jumbo burger. It must be getting close to feeding time at your house.🆒😃 ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/5 "2018-05-25T20:48:14Z")
I think it would be safe to say that most females would be mostly Dolly Partonish if they allowed it, and it would be more unrealistic. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/6 "2018-05-25T22:14:05Z")
Black Desert is the one I was going to mention. I like having the option, like **Jophiel** , because I like to customize my look. I also find that sometimes the female characters are presented a little unrealistically, shall we say. I’m know I’m not the target demographic, but it’s nice to be able to change things up. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/7 "2018-05-27T05:37:45Z")
Conan Exiles has both a boob slider for women and a penis-size slider for men (in the PC version, you have the option to play naked). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/8 "2018-05-27T08:32:21Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > In this era of games that seem to boast “100% complete character customization” as a point of pride it’s shocking to me that modifying body type still is very much limited especially when it comes to chests (both men and womens but women are the most obvious for obvious reasons). To make it equivalent the male characters would need a pelvic bulge adjustment. Make it look like that have a few socks packed in their barbarian thong. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/9 "2018-05-27T17:32:48Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Black Desert Online has a slider as well which makes me wonder if it’s common for Asian MMOs (I think TERA did but don’t remember). I play Final Fantasy XIV (another game from an Asian developer), and it has a bust size slider, as well (though for several of the races, like Miqo’te and Au Ra, there isn’t a big difference between 1 and 100). It also has a height slider, and, for some of the races, a slider for amount of muscle mass / definition. Conversely, Star Wars: the Old Republic has a very limited amount of customization in body design: there are four body types for male characters, and four for females, with no ability to customize height, bust size, or body shape beyond that choice. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/10 "2018-05-27T18:33:00Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > To make it equivalent the male characters would need a pelvic bulge adjustment. Make it look like that have a few socks packed in their barbarian thong. As mentioned before, in Conan Exiles it’s more than a bulge. You actually have a penis flopping around like a dead snake and you can customize its length. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/11 "2018-05-27T18:35:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > As mentioned before, in Conan Exiles it’s more than a bulge. You actually have a penis flopping around like a dead snake and you can customize its length. It’s really creepy, too. It moves even when you don’t, like you’ve got a tiny little breeze down there. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/12 "2018-05-27T19:38:44Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > To make it equivalent the male characters would need a pelvic bulge adjustment. Make it look like that have a few socks packed in their barbarian thong. Well, the actual equivalent of a female chest would be a male chest. If you want a pelvic bulge, you’d have some genital modification for women as well. Pronounced camel toe? But Saints Row 3/4 had (as I recall) a “sex appeal” slider which was boobs and crotch bulges for the girls and guys, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/13 "2018-05-27T20:40:54Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > It’s really creepy, too. It moves even when you don’t, like you’ve got a tiny little breeze down there. It is said the penis is the lightest object there is. It can be lifted up with a mere thought. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/14 "2018-05-27T22:04:31Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I prefer to have one just because I generally prefer robust customization options. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/15 "2018-05-27T22:35:01Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > City of Heroes had a slider and while, yes, you had people having 4’6" women with watermelon boobs, I appreciated the ability to fine tune my appearance. Best customizer I’ve seen so far. I spent far more time designing the character’s body/costume/etc. than the character itself. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/16 "2018-05-28T11:14:32Z")
At least you’re not asking for a boob bounciness slider. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/17 "2018-05-28T13:58:38Z")
Would I be right in guessing that, in Conan Exiles, the extremely unrealistic oversized-boob female characters and the extremely unrealistic oversized-dick male characters are both disproportionately played by males, and that female players mostly prefer more realistic anatomies on both genders? ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/18 "2018-05-28T14:15:41Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Would I be right in guessing that, in Conan Exiles, the extremely unrealistic oversized-boob female characters and the extremely unrealistic oversized-dick male characters are both disproportionately played by males, and that female players mostly prefer more realistic anatomies on both genders? You can’t go ridiculously oversized IIRC. The game is a bit more gritty and realistic (it’s a survival game set in a harsh environment). It’s been a while since I played, but I don’t remember any watermelon boobs or third legs. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/19 "2018-05-28T15:23:44Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > …but even “big” boobs (which generally are put on the fat frame) aren’t even that big comparatively… Huh, that truly surprises me. Back when I use to play video games with my kids, the female characters mostly had ridiculous large busts. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781/20 "2018-05-28T18:35:52Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > You can’t go ridiculously oversized IIRC. The game is a bit more gritty and realistic (it’s a survival game set in a harsh environment). It’s been a while since I played, but I don’t remember any watermelon boobs or third legs. From what I can remember you can make a guy somewhat like Milton Berle but you can’t quite make a woman like Dolly Parton. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-say-i-want-video-games-to-have-a-boob-size-slider-without-sounding-like-a-pervert-misogynist/814781.md?page=2)