# Can I start an "All liberals should be executed" thread in Great Debates? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 12, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867 "2010-06-12T01:31:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/1 "2010-06-12T01:31:17Z")
I really don’t think I could. Nor should I, for that matter. Thus, I am confused as to why [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=566782) was moved to Great Debates. Ain’t nothing great there to debate. It’s essentially a rant against religious people. Rants go in the Pit. Where ranters can be insulted, should such be merited. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/2 "2010-06-12T01:41:08Z")
Objection withdrawn, as **Marley** moved it to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/3 "2010-06-12T01:41:22Z")
The thread was started about an hour ago and I wasn’t aware of it until a few minutes ago. It’s been moved to the Pit. You have to be patient with us sometimes, **Oakminster** - we don’t see everything that happens here, particularly if people don’t report it. And we’re not always online when they do. I thought about locking that thread because **mutantmoose** had a similar one already active in GD, but I decided to send it BBQ-ward. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/4 "2010-06-12T01:43:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The thread was started about an hour ago and I wasn’t aware of it until a few minutes ago. It’s been moved to the Pit. You have to be patient with us sometimes, **Oakminster** - we don’t see everything that happens here, particularly if people don’t report it. And we’re not always online when they do. I thought about locking that thread because **mutantmoose** had a similar one already active in GD, but I decided to send it BBQ-ward. It’s cool. I reported it when I saw it in IMHO, and **samclem** moved it to GD, which confused me. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/5 "2010-06-12T01:43:52Z")
Cool. There’s certainly something to debate in there, but we agree the Pit is the right place. I commend it into the hands of **Gfactor** and **Miller**. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/6 "2010-06-12T01:44:27Z")
This liberal says “go for it!” Let’s see if there’s a double standard. The worst that could happen is a warning for you, and proof that a double standard does indeed exist on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/7 "2010-06-12T01:56:59Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > It’s cool. I reported it when I saw it in IMHO, and **samclem** moved it to GD, which confused me. > [@Marley23](#): > > Cool. There’s certainly something to debate in there, but we agree the Pit is the right place. I commend it into the hands of **Gfactor** and **Miller**. I’m still not sure. I think this is one of those borderline threads. It could be a judgement call, which is what I did. It’s a _meh_ to me where it goes. But, it certainly wasn’t IMHO. Edited to add–I’m new in IMHO. Give me a break. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/8 "2010-06-12T02:07:39Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Edited to add–I’m new in IMHO. Give me a break. 🙂 New Ump. We gotta see where your strike zone is. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/9 "2010-06-12T13:01:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Can I start an “All liberals should be executed” thread in Great Debates? Now, now. [He](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ignatieff)isn’t **that** bad! ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/10 "2010-06-12T14:11:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I thought about locking that thread because **mutantmoose** had a similar one already active in GD, but I decided to send it BBQ-ward. Actually they both raise slightly different questions. One is “religion hasn’t done anything for us” and the other is “what would the world be like if you removed all the religious people?” The only things they have in common is that they both concern religion and they were both started by me. But GD/Pit whatever - I don’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/11 "2010-06-12T14:34:28Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > Actually they both raise slightly different questions. One is “religion hasn’t done anything for us” and the other is “what would the world be like if you removed all the religious people?” > > The only things they have in common is that they both concern religion and they were both started by me. But GD/Pit whatever - I don’t mind. And to me both translate into “I wanna make an anti-religious rant.” Which **Der Trihs** has the GD copyright on. But I’d be interested in grasping the difference you see, other than the basic semantic one of “benefits, or lack thereof, we have gained from religion” vs. “benefits, or lack thereof, from removing forcibly all practitioners of religion.” ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/12 "2010-06-12T14:41:06Z")
So all anti-religious threads are, by definition, a rant? Interesting. The difference is that one is asking what benefits there would be if religion had never existed and the other is asking what benefits there would be if religion suddenly ceased to exist. They are slightly different (although I admit similar) in that in the second scenario we have seen what religion has to offer and decided to execute all the adherents in order to remove it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/13 "2010-06-12T14:44:26Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > So all anti-religious threads are, by definition, a rant? Interesting. > > The difference is that one is asking what benefits there would be if religion had never existed and the other is asking what benefits there would be if religion suddenly ceased to exist. > > They are slightly different (although I admit similar) in that in the second scenario we have seen what religion has to offer and decided to execute all the adherents in order to remove it. That’s a remarkably ugly scenario, though. I’ve no love for religion - but you can’t really expect to be cool with a thread which boils down to, “hey, how 'bout a genocide?” ---
**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/14 "2010-06-12T14:45:07Z")
It’s a thought experiment. Chillax ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/15 "2010-06-12T14:59:35Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > It’s a thought experiment. Chillax It’s an anti-religious rant. Chillax. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/16 "2010-06-12T15:49:25Z")
You can call it a delightful romantic comedy or a chocolate covered orgasm if you want, but you’re conducting a thought experiment about/joking about/jerking off to/ genocide. It’s not much different from a thread about executing all Jews or Muslims. Call it what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/17 "2010-06-12T15:51:53Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > You can call it a delightful romantic comedy or a chocolate covered orgasm if you want, but you’re conducting a thought experiment about/joking about/jerking off to/ genocide. It’s not much different from a thread about executing all Jews or Muslims. Call it what it is. Indeed, it _is_ a thread about executing all Jews. And all Muslims. And all Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, etc. etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/18 "2010-06-12T16:08:38Z")
I think it is taking an outrageous position that the OP does not sincerely hold, for the purpose of stirring things up. I do not approve of such conduct, but if it is done in the pit, then those that disagree can respond as they may deem appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/19 "2010-06-12T16:29:03Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > It’s a thought experiment. Chillax People who use stupid words like “Chillax” should be executed! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/20 "2010-06-12T16:29:43Z")
Thanks for the heads up, so I don’t have to read the thread. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867.md?page=2)