# Can I start an "All liberals should be executed" thread in Great Debates?

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**Created:** [June 12, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867 "2010-06-12T01:31:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/41 "2010-06-13T22:38:07Z")

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@Moose

Atheist here: Aside from willful ignorance, you can’t choose what you believe.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/42 "2010-06-13T22:41:20Z")

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Since you feel that genocide is a viable method, what is it, exactly, that you disagree with the Nazis and Communists about? Term limits?

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**Author:** ![mutantmoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@mutantmoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mutantmoose)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/43 "2010-06-13T22:49:56Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> @Moose
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> Atheist here: Aside from willful ignorance, you can’t choose what you believe.

You sure about that? How can a belief be anything other than a choice? You weigh up the pros and cons of a particular religion and then accept it or reject it - is that not a choice?

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> Since you feel that genocide is a viable method, what is it, exactly, that you disagree with the Nazis and Communists about? Term limits?

I disagree with the nazis and the communists about lots of things. For one thing, they executed the wrong people.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/44 "2010-06-13T23:08:59Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Didn’t stop me from being warned, nor anyone else. It’s always been a single action thing, to the point where I’ve asked that the rule be changed to “acting like a jerk” rather than being one.

I do not recall that we have issued Warnings for stupidity.  
If there had been any indication that he was serious about his “proposal,” I might have considered Warning him and/or closing his thread. I do not read it as an actual call for murder and I think that several of the reactions to the thread have given it far more weight than it deserves.

> [@BigT](#):
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> And I must remind you that this was not started in the Pit. So you shouldn’t try to use Pit level rules against it. We have to stick with IMHO rules, where using fuck in a certain way gets you Warned.

I did not see the thread when it was in IMHO, (where I am not a Mod), and it had already passed through GD and landed in the Pit before I did see it. Beyond that, I am not sure why you are admonishing me to avoid relying on Pit rules when I do not recall using any forum-specific rules in my comments, here.

In fact, my initial comments in this thread were simply notes to \*\*mutantmoose, \*\*pointing out his dishonest behavior.

> [@Zoe](#):
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> No one is going to buy it, **Tom.**

Buy what? He made a stupid proposal that managed to be both inflammatory and inane at the same time, one that effectively derailed his own topic before it could get started.  
Unless you are going to report every post that has condemned or vilified any group that includes some poster or another–something you clearly have not done to date, then you are simply picking and choosing which posts or posters regarding whom you choose to be offended.

You may slide in all the little personal digs at me that you wish, but without providing a coherent argument that you can support with evidence, you are failing to make your case (whatever that might be).

Have a happy buzz, regardless what fútbol team wins.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/45 "2010-06-13T23:11:41Z")

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Never fucking mind

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/46 "2010-06-13T23:14:15Z")

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WHOA.  
This forum is ATMB. This thread was intended for discussion about whether another thread belonged in GD or the Pit. That’s a legit discussion.

We’ve now moved into “what is genocide” (GD or GQ) and various other religious/anti-religious comments. Those belong elsewhere. The choice is moving or closing this thread, and I’m for closing it. Those who want to discuss it, please go to the original, in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/47 "2010-06-13T23:15:33Z")

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> [@mutantmoose](#):
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> Ultimately your religion is a choice you have made. It doesn’t matter how devout you are or how much you have convinced yourself that it is an intrinsic part of your personality. It is still ultimately a decision you have made to be religious. You can change that decision at any time.

> [@mutantmoose](#):
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> You sure about that? How can a belief be anything other than a choice? You weigh up the pros and cons of a particular religion and then accept it or reject it - is that not a choice?

Fine. Believe in God for one week, then get back to us.

> [@mutantmoose](#):
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> However I’m quite glad that some of you have done because it’s doubled the humour value for me. I haven’t stopped laughing for about three days. It’s not jerkish - I just have quite a vibrant imagination.

Actually, with this comment, you indicate that you have been trolling, which is jerk behavior.  
I’m sure that you will cry that you are only reporting on your troll reaction and that you had not posted with the intention of being a troll, so I am going to run this past the rest of the staff to see whether there is agreement about Warning you.  
However, now that you have announced your mindset, the next time you behave this way in Great Debates, I will Warn you for trolling.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-i-start-an-all-liberals-should-be-executed-thread-in-great-debates/542867/48 "2010-06-15T02:07:29Z")

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Given your remarks about how funny you found all this in conjunction with your remarks about boredom along with your comments about the Nazis, it is the consensus of the staff that you have been trolling.

You are Warned to stop that behavior.

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