# Can Kirkorian Pull This One off? \[ed. title: Buy Ford Mtr Co and turn it around?\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 17, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684 "2008-05-17T20:30:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/1 "2008-05-17T20:30:07Z")
Just got my tender offer-Tracinda Corp. will pay $8.5/share, for up to 20,000,000 shares of Ford! God bless Kirk-he’s still making deals! Apparently, Alan Mullaley (FORD CEO) approves-guess this means that Tracinda plans to take control away from the Ford family. Question: can Kirkorain turn Ford around? He is 90-he doesn’t have a lot of time left! ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/2 "2008-05-17T20:39:38Z")
Maybe, but I always get him mixed up with the suicide guy. How is this a debate? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/3 "2008-05-17T20:57:15Z")
The debate looks like “Is Ford too screwed up to fix?” If Chrysler can be saved this way (and we don’t know yet), then Ford can be too. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/4 "2008-05-17T22:47:31Z")
Well, I see a debate: how does Tracinda pay out $160 million, without a solid plan to make ford profitable? Kirk is 90-I don’t know many financiers that would attempt such a move! ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/5 "2008-05-18T08:59:50Z")
You can say a lot of things about Kirkorian, mostly bad - but one thing you can’t say is that he is a bad businessman. He bought, and sold, and bought again and then sold again, MGM Studios…he dismantled it, and then re-built it and then sold it again. He started from nothing - and he is now the most powerful man in Las Vegas…he owns a good half of The Strip casinos and yet few people outside of Las Vegas even know his name. I might hate the man for what he has done to MGM film studios, but if I were going to invest money, I would (grudgingly) follow him anywhere he goes. Even though he owns MGM Grand, Mirage, NYNY, Treasure Island, Bellagio and numerous other major casinos - he doesn’t gamble when it comes time to invest his own money. He must have some plan to make even more money. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/6 "2008-05-18T14:07:32Z")
Ford is a great auto company, held back mostly by the fact that there’s a Ford running it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/7 "2008-05-18T19:49:32Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] Kirk is 90 [/QUOTE] He’s not dead. He’s aligning with the Fords. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-kirkorian-pull-this-one-off-ed-title-buy-ford-mtr-co-and-turn-it-around/449684/8 "2008-05-18T22:34:01Z")
So can we say he’s pining for the Fords? 🆒