# Can men ejaculate without orgasming? TMI, I suppose. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 30, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615 "2010-07-30T19:17:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/1 "2010-07-30T19:17:26Z")
The title pretty well says it all. Is it possible for a man to ejaculate without having an orgasm? I’ve heard this, but I’ve always been a touch suspicious. I mean, I have girl orgasms and they come in many shapes and sizes - some are big, some are small. I guess I’m wondering if non-orgasm ejaculation is actually just small orgasms. ---
**Author:** ![meflin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecb155/32.png) [@meflin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meflin)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/2 "2010-07-30T19:32:05Z")
Man: Rare but it happens. Ejaculation can be purely physical with no pleasure at all. Meflin ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/3 "2010-07-30T19:34:17Z")
**Meflin** ’s right. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/4 "2010-07-30T19:36:28Z")
He’s correct. All of the mess, none of the, “YES!” ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/5 "2010-07-30T19:40:46Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > He’s correct. All of the mess, none of the, “YES!” Huh. Can anyone explain the physiologic goings on that would allow this to happen? ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/6 "2010-07-30T19:42:02Z")
In my experience it’s not all that rare and occurs as the result of an attempt to hold off climax in order to heighten pleasure. Ironically, it has the opposite effect. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/7 "2010-07-30T19:43:48Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > > [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > > > He’s correct. All of the mess, none of the, “YES!” > > Huh. Can anyone explain the physiologic goings on that would allow this to happen? Semen is ejaculated from the penis but the usually concomitant pleasure of an organsm is not acheived. ETA: there probably is an orgasm it’s just really small ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/8 "2010-07-30T19:43:51Z")
It’s most likely to happen as a result of direct prostate stimulation, but human bodies specifically and biology in general are messy and complicated enough that I wouldn’t be at all surprised at it happening with no apparent cause at all. It’s also possible, if you’re wondering, for a man to have an orgasm without ejaculation. The most common cause for this is if the man in question has already had multiple ejaculations in relatively rapid succession, and has just plain run dry, but again, there’s no reason it couldn’t happen spontaneously. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/9 "2010-07-30T20:06:58Z")
Technically I believe the answer is no. I have certainly had orgasms that weren’t very pleasurable, but they were still according-to-Hoyle orgasms, even if they didn’t feel as great as others. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/10 "2010-07-30T20:10:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s also possible, if you’re wondering, for a man to have an orgasm without ejaculation. This one I have actually experienced first hand. Well, not _FIRST_ hand, but you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![TerpBE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc8723/32.png) [@TerpBE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TerpBE)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/11 "2010-07-30T20:19:57Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > It’s also possible, if you’re wondering, for a man to have an orgasm without ejaculation. > > This one I have actually experienced first hand. It’s probably not that uncommon. I figured eventually somebody on here would come clean. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/12 "2010-07-30T20:29:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I figured eventually somebody on here would come clean. Was the pun intentional there? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/13 "2010-07-30T20:31:34Z")
> [@whole\_bean](#): > > In my experience it’s not all that rare and occurs as the result of an attempt to hold off climax in order to heighten pleasure. Ironically, it has the opposite effect. Yeah, this is the only circumstance in which I’ve encountered the phenomenon eg in a last ditch attempt to prevent partner disappointment, desperately thinking of Mrs Thatcher, dustbins, world poverty and credit card bills, and then a rather perfunctory _splooge_ anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/14 "2010-07-30T21:01:57Z")
There’s a whole subculture devoted to the “ruined orgasm” or “spoiled orgasm” - where the sub is firmly restrained and the Domme applies just enough stimulation to cause him to begin ejaculating without dropping the other shoe, so he ejaculates rather less than he normally would and stops short of full orgasm. Then for added emphasis it’s rinse and repeat until he’s thoroughly drained of semen without once actually coming full-on. Not my scene, but hey, different strokes… ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/15 "2010-07-30T21:05:29Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > There’s a whole subculture devoted to the “ruined orgasm” or “spoiled orgasm” - where the sub is firmly restrained and the Domme applies just enough stimulation to cause him to begin ejaculating without dropping the other shoe, so he ejaculates rather less than he normally would and stops short of full orgasm. Then for added emphasis it’s rinse and repeat until he’s thoroughly drained of semen without once actually coming full-on. Not my scene, but hey, different strokes… Humm - would this involve some sort of electro stimulation of the prostate, perhaps? I guess I’m not sure how the dom could achieve this without an orgasm or two sneaking in there any other way. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/16 "2010-07-30T21:39:42Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > > [@whole\_bean](#): > > > > In my experience it’s not all that rare and occurs as the result of an attempt to hold off climax in order to heighten pleasure. Ironically, it has the opposite effect. > > Yeah, this is the only circumstance in which I’ve encountered the phenomenon eg in a last ditch attempt to prevent partner disappointment, desperately thinking of Mrs Thatcher, dustbins, world poverty and credit card bills, and then a rather perfunctory _splooge_ anyway. God that was funny. Mrs. Thatcher! Dustbins! LOL Ahahahaha! :D:D ---
**Author:** ![bardos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bardos/32/1069_2.png) [@bardos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bardos)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/17 "2010-07-30T22:07:51Z")
yes… personal experience ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/18 "2010-07-30T23:30:07Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > > [@Malacandra](#): > > > > There’s a whole subculture devoted to the “ruined orgasm” or “spoiled orgasm” - where the sub is firmly restrained and the Domme applies just enough stimulation to cause him to begin ejaculating without dropping the other shoe, so he ejaculates rather less than he normally would and stops short of full orgasm. Then for added emphasis it’s rinse and repeat until he’s thoroughly drained of semen without once actually coming full-on. Not my scene, but hey, different strokes… > > Humm - would this involve some sort of electro stimulation of the prostate, perhaps? > > I guess I’m not sure how the dom could achieve this without an orgasm or two sneaking in there any other way. No, by hand. Stop at exactly the right time and a man will shoot an appreciable amount (not a full load) without quite coming to orgasm. Kinda like there’s two switches to throw, one to trigger semen _release_ and one to actually _fire_ it out, and with practice it’s possible to stop after the first. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/19 "2010-07-31T00:31:09Z")
Yes, it definitely happens, usually when you feel yourself getting close, but not to the “point of no return” (PNR) . . . and at the same time you’re beginning to lose your concentration. So you’re trying very hard to reach the PNR, and at the same time hold on to your concentration. At a certain point you ejaculate, but without the ejaculatory feeling. You do produce a full load, though it comes out gradually, sometimes over the course of a few minutes. And it is pleasurable, sort of the same way that urination can be pleasurable. And yes, this is one of the things that a very skilled dom/domme can perform on a submissive. And it bears pointing out that neither this type of ejaculation nor a “normal” one necessarily requires an erection. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615/20 "2010-07-31T01:37:47Z")
Yes, personal experience. No, it’s not just a lesser O. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-men-ejaculate-without-orgasming-tmi-i-suppose/548615.md?page=2)