That’s a unique definition of genocide. The mass murder of an ethnic group does not need to be total eradication to be a genocide. The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group”.
Words have meanings.
Another language which, until quite recently, was barely written 
We have placenames and peoplenames which are Basque showing up in documents from when people from Rome carried SPQR pennants; the first written sentences in Basque are on the same book and by the same hand as the first written notes in Spanish; but documents in Basque are extremely rare before the 20th century. Spelling is still being worked on, even.
Last weekend I was in Nantes, which was the seat of the Dukes of Bretagne for many years. Most foreigners wouldn’t think of a place “so far south” as being Bretagne, but the locals do. About half the streets had bilingual signs.
Nah, we do that on April 21st.
The “Spanish alphabet” is Roman script. But the Maya most certainly had a writing system they used. As a fluent speaker, I’m shocked you don’t know that.
All of this is completely irrelevant to whether Mexican-Americans and Mexican immigrants presently in California have indigenous roots. And of course the small number of Californians that descend from Spanish colonists that were there before Mexican independence were partly mestizos as well, and so have an indigenous connection.
To reiterate once again, we are not talking specifically about Aztecs but all indigenous groups in Mexico. They brought Mexican culture with them, which is partly based on indigenous roots.
Roman script but specifically the Spanish version, and specifically with Spanish transcription rules. There’s a reason many games indicate “names must use English letters”: that limits the available symbols a lot more than saying “the Latin alphabet”.
I didn’t realize Aztecs and Mayans were indigenous to Southern California - I didn’t think they’d gotten that far North.
(It depends on how you define indigenous is what I’m getting at. For a broad definition sure. For a narrow one, no)
Who claimed or even suggested that?
To get back to the original post, the real answer should be: who do the participating groups think should be included? If the indigenous Californian groups have no problem with the Mexican groups, then that’s good enough for me. Or, if they do have a problem, then that’s fine too. Given the controversy surrounding San Junípero Serra, I’m inclined to respect their wishes either way.
So, how many Natives died with the INTENT to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group?
I mean, most native Americans died purely by accident, the European brought over diseases. That killed 90+% of the native Population.
The scope of the epidemics over the years was tremendous, killing millions of people—possibly in excess of 90% of the population in the hardest hit areas—and creating one of “the greatest human catastrophe in history, far exceeding even the disaster of the Black Death of medieval Europe”,[25] which had killed up to one-third of the people in Europe and Asia between 1347 and 1351.
Although we may never know the exact magnitudes of the depopulation, it is lthough we may never know the exact magnitudes of the depopulation, it is
estimated that upwards of 80–95 percent of the Native American population was
decimated within the fi rst 100–150 years following 1492 (Newson, 2001). .
Then there was War. Both sides are to blame there, other than a few minor “mopping up” expeditions late in the period, there was no “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group”."
The Trail of Tears was more a result of incompetence and corruption that a deliberate attempt to kill the Cherokee.
Perhaps there were a few isolated instances of actual "genocide’ vs the Native Americans, but mostly it was caused by blundering and ignorance, rather than intentional.
Not Little Nemo, of course, but it seems to me that the actual question is not, “Do Mexicans identify with their indigeous heritage” but, “Do Mexicans identify Mariachi Bands with their indigenous heritage”?
The Mexicans who have indigenous heritage are free to celebrate it however they wish, I just would have expected to hear Native music on Native instruments, not the instruments and music styles of the Spanish conquerors at an event specifically meant to commemorate the conquered.
But what do I know.
Again, like Little Nemo, you’re missing the point. Trying to separate out the different strands of mestizo culture is pointless. It’s a mixed identity. I know that many people from the US have trouble with this concept. Elements that were of European origin can come to be part of indigenous identity, as witness the horse cultures of the Plains.
So you are handwaving the death of 70-90% of NA from post contact diseases, handwaving Manifest Destiny as merely incompetence (because they didn’t kill all of the various tribes forced to move west?) and well, in the context of this thread, the death through religious schools (both actual death and forced conversion to not just a religion but also made to forget languages, culture and original religion so as to assimilate)? Said schools existing into the 70s… that is the 1970s? Oh wait… 2007. American Indian boarding schools - Wikipedia “Many children died while in custody at Indian Schools. The 1928 Meriam Report noted that infectious disease was often widespread at the schools due to malnutrition, overcrowding, poor sanitary conditions, and students weakened by overwork. The report said that death rates for Native American students were six and a half times higher than for other ethnic groups.[17]”
Reservations were not meant as strongholds (though we did manage to use them as such). They were meant to break us like the Ghettos over the centuries were used.
the death of 70-90% of NA from post contact diseases- Not intentional.
Many thought they were helping the Indians move to safer areas.
And those people thought they were helping the native americans assimilate.
In order for it to be "genocide’ it must have *intent.