# Can Mike Huckabee win the GOP nomination and the presidency?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 26, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603 "2015-11-26T04:40:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/41 "2015-11-26T16:49:38Z")

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> [@basquebromance](#):
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> when folks were sayin we’re gonna march for our freedoms somebody said you can’t do that and they said YES WE CAN!
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> when they told reagan we can’t beat the soviet union he told them YES WE CAN!
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> YES WE CAN…make mike huckabee president!
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> YES WE CAN…take our country back!
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> YES WE CAN…restore our constitutional liberties!
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> YES! WE! CAN!

Well, if you really believe that, why don’t you vote in the poll at the top of the thread?

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/42 "2015-11-26T16:54:16Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> If you can hear your friends say that and conclude that they’re not bigots, you really need to broaden your circle of friends.

They want African Americans and Latinos to respect the Armed Forces and respect America’s values. They are not racist, that’s what they told me.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/43 "2015-11-26T16:58:11Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> They want African Americans and Latinos to respect the Armed Forces and respect America’s values. They are not racist, that’s what they told me.

Holy shit. First they were bothered by the gays, now your friends are bothered by African Americans and Latinos. Luckily, they have many options in the Republican field. Huckabee is only one of many goofballs.

On reflection, this has got to be a joke thread I’m not getting. "They’re not bigots…they are not racists…they are just bigoted and racist.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/44 "2015-11-26T17:00:38Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> … Some people are upset that social changes are being made to our society…

What an interesting turn of phrase, the implications, the insinuations. Its not the people who are changing, but that they are being molded by a powerful outside force into forms and habits that are repulsive to them.

So, all that polling, all those studies, that purport to show that America is becoming more tolerant, more accepting, more (gasp!) “liberal”…all a bunch of lies? Do you fantasize about a “silent majority”, a hidden truth that your views are in line with most Americans, or would that be most “real” Americans?

And this “honor” that you want back, where did we leave it? Did we leave in the Philippines, when we back-stabbed our rebel allies and installed ourselves in place of the Spanish? When we formed our Central and South American policies to support some of the bloodiest tyrants since Pizzaro? Viet Nam? Iraq? What honor is there in sending men to kill for a lie? Our honor is besmirched because some of them were gay? How does a man honor his country by assisting in a dishonorable cause?

You can’t have back what never was to begin with. But you can build something in place. And we are. And we will. And you aren’t, and you won’t. Because you are losing.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/45 "2015-11-26T17:01:15Z")

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Current poll results.

No - 35. Yes - Glory Days

I guess we now know what the Glory Days were; the time of straight white Christian male supremacy.

News flash. Those days are over. They will never come back. People who still support them are bigots. The OP’s “friends” are a shrinking minority who are screaming louder in their impotency. They are allowed to scream but it is the duty of everyone else to ensure that they are never given back that power to oppress.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/46 "2015-11-26T17:08:06Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> They want African Americans and Latinos to respect the Armed Forces and respect America’s values. They are not racist, that’s what they told me.

If they’re not racist, what makes them think AAs and Latinos **don’t** respect those things?

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**Author:** ![FightMyIgnorance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@FightMyIgnorance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FightMyIgnorance)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/47 "2015-11-26T17:14:44Z")

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> [@basquebromance](#):
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> all the candidates except hillary and pataki!

Well then, I want to talk to you about a guy, goes by the name of “Bernie Sanders”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/48 "2015-11-26T17:15:33Z")

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> [@basquebromance](#):
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> when folks were sayin we’re gonna march for our freedoms somebody said you can’t do that and they said YES WE CAN!
> 
> when they told reagan we can’t beat the soviet union he told them YES WE CAN!
> 
> YES WE CAN…make mike huckabee president!
> 
> YES WE CAN…take our country back!
> 
> YES WE CAN…restore our constitutional liberties!
> 
> YES! WE! CAN!

You must be one of **Glorydays** “friends.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/49 "2015-11-26T17:17:03Z")

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OK, even setting aside the question of whether Huckabee _should_ win the Presidency, let’s take a look at reality. The [current polling averages](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html) put Huckabee at seventh place, with only 3.3% of the vote. Eighth place, if you count “no response”, who got nearly twice his total. He’s 24.2% behind the front runner. And that’s just among Republicans!

Numbers have meaning. Learn to math.

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **FightMyIgnorance** :
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> Well then, I want to talk to you about a guy, goes by the name of “Bernie Sanders”.

Yup, **BasqueBromance** has been cheerleading him, too. I’m not sure how that makes any sense either, but there you go.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/50 "2015-11-26T17:40:05Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Current poll results.
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> No - 35. Yes - Glory Days
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> I guess we now know what the Glory Days were; the time of straight white Christian male supremacy.
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> News flash. Those days are over. They will never come back. People who still support them are bigots. The OP’s “friends” are a shrinking minority who are screaming louder in their impotency. They are allowed to scream but it is the duty of everyone else to ensure that they are never given back that power to oppress.

I did not choose Glory Days as a username because of supremacy. I chose Glory Days because we will one day have a day of glory and opportunity. My friends believe that African Americans are un-patriotic, anti-military, and they don’t appreciate the U.S. They want to know why they join the military, if they do it for a leg up in life or if they believe in America.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/51 "2015-11-26T17:42:05Z")

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So, none of your friends are, themselves, black?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/52 "2015-11-26T17:49:39Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> I did not choose Glory Days as a username because of supremacy. I chose Glory Days because we will one day have a day of glory and opportunity.

Hmmm, I’m enjoying some pretty glorious days right now. But, I’m white, so that makes sense I guess.

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> My friends believe that African Americans are un-patriotic, anti-military, and they don’t appreciate the U.S. They want to know why they join the military, if they do it for a leg up in life or if they believe in America.

You need some new friends. Tell us more why they also hate Latinos in the military. I remember some Army General, joint chief, secretary of state, what was his name? Grew up in Harlem. I think he joined the military for a “leg up in life” \*AND \*because he believed in America (whatever that means).

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/53 "2015-11-26T17:55:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, none of your friends are, themselves, black?

I have friends of all races, c’mon. These two friends of mine are very suspicious of minorites right now.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/54 "2015-11-26T17:56:06Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> They want African Americans and Latinos to respect the Armed Forces and respect America’s values. They are not racist, that’s what they told me.

Guess what. There’s a higher percentage of blacks in the armed forces than in the general population.

What group sends the lowest share of its population to fight for us? [Whites.](http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-demographics-2014-8?op=1)

How are we going to get those white folks to respect the armed forces and America’s values???

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/55 "2015-11-26T21:35:30Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> My friends believe that African Americans are un-patriotic, anti-military, and they don’t appreciate the U.S.

Your friends are bigots. Bigots are anti-American. Bigots don’t appreciate the U.S.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/56 "2015-11-26T21:56:53Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> These two friends of mine are very suspicious of minorites right now.

Get better friends.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/57 "2015-11-26T22:18:24Z")

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The fact that anyone thinks a religious bigot has a chance of a party nomination is beyond laughable. al-Huckabee’s mouth is one of my favorite things in this race, though, because whenever he speaks, he makes religion and christian family values look as stupid as they are. For every other word he says, at least one agnostic is born. Clearly GD’s “friends” want the kind of world this so-called candidate preaches.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/58 "2015-11-27T00:26:55Z")

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> [@GloryDays](#):
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> These two friends of mine are very suspicious of minorites right now.

And you know what we call people who have bigoted ideas? Bigots. We call those people bigots - not because we’re “PC” or liberal meanies. People who do bigoted things are called Bigots _because it accurate_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/59 "2015-11-27T01:12:27Z")

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Well, shit, I know a triple threat, a guy who’s a gay black Latino. Nothing much suspicious about him except he’s a really good dancer. I don’t trust guys like that, myself.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-mike-huckabee-win-the-gop-nomination-and-the-presidency/738603/60 "2015-11-27T01:13:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, shit, I know a triple threat, a guy who’s a gay black Latino. Nothing much suspicious about him except he’s a really good dancer. I don’t trust guys like that, myself.

No kidding. They _always_ want to lead.

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