# Can my employer hire anybody other than cackling hens with HUGE ASSES? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2004, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301 "2004-03-19T22:34:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/21 "2004-03-19T23:56:29Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > And this is your business…why? What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Maendosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Maendosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maendosa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/22 "2004-03-19T23:57:21Z")
Not that I am in any way condoning the attitude of the OP, but you actually _can_ lose a good deal of weight by tracking and decreasing and maintaining your caloric intake (with or without exercise, though of course, you’re going to do better with exercise as well). I have lost 15-20 pounds over the last 4 months doing just that - tracking my calories to see how much I ate eat daily, then decreasing that amount below my metabolic ‘burn’ rate (which can be determined by counting your daily intake of calories and comparing it to your gain/loss of weight over time). I’ve reached my goal, and maintained it as well. It’s not _easy_, per se, but if anyone tells you they’ve got an easy way to lose weight, they’re lying to you. As for the OP, it’s none of your fucking business who weighs what. It’s not your life, your weight, or your problem. If you don’t want to look at these ladies, then get yourself another job where you only have to look at perfectly shaped people all day. Good luck with that! ---
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/23 "2004-03-19T23:58:45Z")
> [@SnoopyFan](#): > > Atkins is about 32 years old, and you call it “new?” Please pardon my unclear use of the word “new.” I should have called it the “new Atkins diet craze.” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/24 "2004-03-20T00:00:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Okay, well let’s see. 9? 16? 42? > > How did I do? Assuming the measurement units are inches rather than, say, millimeters or leagues, er, not very well, actually. But thanks for playing! ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/25 "2004-03-20T00:04:42Z")
> [@rhinostylee](#): > > What are you talking about? I’ll try again. Why do you care if your coworkers have fat asses? What business is it of yours? ---
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/26 "2004-03-20T00:05:55Z")
> [@Maendosa](#): > > As for the OP, it’s none of your fucking business who weighs what. It’s not your life, your weight, or your problem. If you don’t want to look at these ladies, then get yourself another job where you only have to look at perfectly shaped people all day. Good luck with that! Oh but it is my life and my problem! I have to listen to it! Didn’t you read my post? I’m subjected to it all day long, so I say that it _is_ my fucking business. It would be one thing if they were simply overweight, but it’s the fact that it’s all they talk about yet they do nothing to rectify the situation except piss and moan and eat. And I am trying to get another job . . . I could care less if the people are perfectly shaped or not as long as they don’t cackle about it all day long while they stuff their faces. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/27 "2004-03-20T00:09:38Z")
If I was cooped up in a workplace full of people who talked all day every day about nothing except a problem they all shared, I’d get tired of it after a while. If those people at the same time not just passively but actively sabotaged their own efforts to solve that problem, still moaning and griping all the while, I’d get irritated very quickly. I’d probably open a thread pitting them. That said, I think **rhinostylee** could have used far less hateful language. But this particular group of ladies doesn’t sound very pleasant to work with, were they heavy or svelte. ---
**Author:** ![Maendosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Maendosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maendosa)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/28 "2004-03-20T00:11:13Z")
> [@rhinostylee](#): > > And I am trying to get another job . . . I could care less if the people are perfectly shaped or not as long as they don’t cackle about it all day long while they stuff their faces. Ohhhhhh! So you meant to pit **annoying** people! Well, we all work with those, and you were only doing yourself a disservice by bringing up the whole weight issue, as annoying people do come in all shapes and sizes, doughnut eating, or not doughnut eating… ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/29 "2004-03-20T00:12:13Z")
Jesus, folks, once again the F-word gets everyone’s panties in a bunch. (I could have warned you, **rhinostylee**.) I don’t think the OP is pitting them for _being fat_; he’s pitting them for constantly bitching about being fat while stuffing their faces with junk food all day. For repetitive, annoying complaints coupled with behavior that causes (or at least does nothing to allay) the situation they’re complaining about. Surely you people have experienced disgust at watching someone shovel food into their face in sloppy, near-orgiastic self-indulgence? If you haven’t, you are hereby invited to sit and observe my hugely obese stepfather with a huge bowl of ice cream and a spoon. When he finishes, smacks his dirty lips, looks at your portion, and emits a gurgling belch as he says, “Are you going to eat that?” you will understand. Here’s a quotation from Joyce’s [Ulysses](http://www.bootlegbooks.com/Fiction/joyce/ulysses/lestry.html) that depicts it better than I could: > [@](#): > > Perched on high stools by the bar, hats shoved back, at the tables calling for more bread no charge, swilling, wolfing gobfuls of sloppy food, their eyes bulging, wiping wetted moustaches. A pallid suetfaced young man polished his tumbler knife fork and spoon with his napkin. New set of microbes. A man with an infant’s saucestained napkin tucked round him shovelled gurgling soup down his gullet. A man spitting back on his plate: halfmasticated gristle: no teeth to chewchewchew it. ---
**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/30 "2004-03-20T00:12:36Z")
I don’t see the problem in pitting people who loudly and continuously complain about being overweight but continue to do things that will make them gain more weight. It’s like having coworkers who always bitch about being broke but then boast about buying designer clothing and hitting the bars every night. My hypothetical coworkers being overweight or broke doesn’t affect me in the slightest until they start complaining to me again and again about their situation (I’m assuming that the coworkers in the OP are either talking to **rhinostylee** or very loudly so the whole office can hear). Pitting people because they are overweight is obviously worthy of a Pit backlash. But pitting people because they keep bitching about being overweight while engaging in activities that are likely to make them gain even more weight seems justified to me. And come on - _sniffing the candy jar?_ Ick. ---
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/31 "2004-03-20T00:29:03Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Assuming the measurement units are inches rather than, say, millimeters or leagues, er, not very well, actually. But thanks for playing! Hey, you just told me to throw out a number, and I gave you 3. We could agree on a unit of measurement, but you’re already signing off from the game! > [@Giraffe](#): > > I’ll try again. Why do you care if your coworkers have fat asses? What business is it of yours? Because I have to listen to it all day. Are we not in the BBQ pit? Is this not where you flame about things? ---
**Author:** ![OneYogini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b9e5f3/32.png) [@OneYogini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneYogini)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/32 "2004-03-20T00:29:35Z")
WOW did this thread make me LOL! Ilsa\_Lund, my dear sir, I don’t care what others have posted about you…you are a funny mother f\*cker! 😃 I’ve always found it odd that the BBQ Pit is the place to pit, bitch and moan, but inevitably if people don’t like the way you go about it…the person posting the OP gets flamed! CRAZY! lol! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_Thistlebottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@Admiral\_Thistlebottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Admiral_Thistlebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/33 "2004-03-20T00:44:33Z")
> [@Kayeby](#): > > But pitting people because they keep bitching about being overweight while engaging in activities that are likely to make them gain even more weight seems justified to me. Maybe so, but the OP seems to assume that this is how all overweight people are. ---
**Author:** ![agiantdwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@agiantdwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agiantdwarf)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/34 "2004-03-20T00:46:36Z")
The best tip someone ever gave me for controlling yourself: whenever you think you need a snack, drink something (preferably water) and wait 10 minutes. If you still feel like you need a snack, get one. ---
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/35 "2004-03-20T00:51:14Z")
> [@Admiral Thistlebottom](#): > > Maybe so, but the OP seems to assume that this is how all overweight people are. Maybe you didn’t read my disclaimer. You can still go re-read it if you like. It’s at the bottom of my OP. I wrote it in there for oversensitive people such as yourself even though I was flaming. ---
**Author:** ![rhinostylee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rhinostylee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhinostylee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/36 "2004-03-20T00:51:03Z")
> [@Admiral Thistlebottom](#): > > Maybe so, but the OP seems to assume that this is how all overweight people are. Maybe you didn’t read my disclaimer. You can still go re-read it if you like. It’s at the bottom of my OP. I wrote it in there for oversensitive people such as yourself even though I was flaming. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/37 "2004-03-20T00:53:29Z")
> [@rhinostylee](#): > > So they should indulge in donuts and chocolate all day because it’s a lost cause? Please! > > With asses this large, all you would have to do is stop pigging out and go jogging for 15 minutes a day and they’d lose a lot of weight. > > Ordering diet soda with their double cheeseburger won’t cut it. As we are in the Pit and it’s turning around to flame you in your scrawny little ass. I notice you couldn’t address the two most important issues in my post. 1.) They are there to work, not look good. 2.) Who really cares who a whiny little choir child thinks? A reasonable response to the weight-loss issue (for everyone but the OP) If you seriously decrease your caloric intake, your metabolic rate will slow; trying to lose weight without consistent exercise is not a good idea; the human body evolved beautifully designed to store energy and minimize the use thereof. Four months (good for you, your heart loves you, you will keep your weight in a healthy range, that’s enough support) is, to be blunt, nothing. Getting past the plateaus and keeping the weight off can get difficult. (But you are losing at a reasonable rate; the rate will probably slow down soon, so be prepared to need to increase your exercise duration or intensity). If this is a Pit about boring conversation, I’m with it. But I am sick to Christ of nasty little lucky shits who sneer at everyone who doesn’t fit into the American Network Ideal; rich, thin, selfish and cruel. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/38 "2004-03-20T00:54:56Z")
Please tell me you don’t have the type of co-workers who will go to the vending machine, buy a candy bar, and then go to their friend’s desk and say, “Please don’t make me eat this Butterfinger!” I hate offices that are always filled with junk food. ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_Thistlebottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@Admiral\_Thistlebottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Admiral_Thistlebottom)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/39 "2004-03-20T00:56:50Z")
> [@rhinostylee](#): > > Maybe you didn’t read my disclaimer. You can still go re-read it if you like. It’s at the bottom of my OP. I wrote it in there for oversensitive people such as yourself even though I was flaming. Well fine, but I still don’t understand how someone else’s unhealthy lifestyle is harmful to you. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301/40 "2004-03-20T00:58:57Z")
> [@j66](#): > > If you seriously decrease your caloric intake, your metabolic rate will slow; trying to lose weight without consistent exercise is not a good idea; the human body evolved beautifully designed to store energy and minimize the use thereof. I apologize for being so blunt earlier, it’s been a long day. A 200-400 (even 500) calorie deficit per diem is not that taxing on the body. Add 20-30 minutes exercise daily, you get 1-2 pounds of fat lost per week. After losing twenty pounds, it shouldn’t be that hard to muster the willpower to break the plateau with more exercise and a different diet. For the majority of overweight people, this would work fine. Most people are just lazy. There are of course exceptions, but the majority of the \>60% of this country that are overweight don’t have a metabolic or thyroid disorder. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-my-employer-hire-anybody-other-than-cackling-hens-with-huge-asses/235301.md?page=3)