If you’re stupid enough to have incurred losses, then you’re probably stupid enough to get suckered in by a shyster lawyer with nothing but the benefit of his own wallet in mind.
It’s obvious, we need more Government control to prevent this from happening in the future because we are just stupid sheeple :rolleyes:
Another thing… so you do win, what can you collect? I doubt the guy is personally rich.
His church is worth 65 million. He personally lives very well off it. He did not do a vow of poverty, that is always for followers.
Damages, no. But they can win specific performance.
Almost all of the value is the radio stations. It does not sound like Camping and his church have a lot of cash.
If Camping made financial plans that involved the actual properties of his followers and those plans included assumptions that he would be around today (23 May 2011), then that might be a problem for him.
Off topic, but I didn’t think this was true. Can you confirm?
Yes, a lot of death sentences (and convictions) have been thrown out in the last few decades. It’s happened about three times a year for the last 20 years.
That’s pretty much the way we do it in my state as well…at least in the Courts where I practice regularly. Typically it is the clerk that does the swearing in when the witness is called, but I haven’t seen anyone break out a Bible. They do tend to end the oath with “…so help you, God?” though…
Since the re-instatement of the death penalty 30 years ago, no one has been executed and then had their conviction overturned. Some have been convicted and sentenced to death and then had their conviction overturned before being executed. However, some people who were executed were almost certainly innocent. Cameron Todd Willingham is the most famous case. Authorities in Texas are still stonewalling investigations related to it.
Thanks IRT, that is what I was thinking about :smack:
Many others were put to death before DNA could prove their innocence. It is horrible.
Have you ever been in a courtroom in your life?
On the three separate occasions I’ve served on a jury, in two different states, I saw dozens of witnesses being sworn in, and never once saw a Bible or even a “so help you God”.
Just because you saw it on TV while watching a Lifetime movie of the week doesn’t make it true.
When I had jury duty (in Pennsylvania) all the oaths started with the phrase “Do you swear (or affirm) by Almighty God…”. There was an actual Bible (I wonder which version 
) that the witnesses were sworn in on, but we jurors just had to raise our right hands. I got some dirty/annoyed looks from a few of the other jurors when I insisted on being “affirmed in” seperately without reference to a diety after everyone else was sworn in as a group. We weren’t asked beforehand wether we wanted to be sworn or affirmed so there was some confusion when the clerk finished the oath and everyone else said “Yes” while I said “No”.
Actually it’s been delayed as Jesus needed some more time to locate his long form birth certificate
Is this for the ‘borrowing’ the donkey for His ride into Jerusalem?
In this case, it clearly IS falsifiable; in fact, it was conclusively falsified. And it’s certainly not the only religious claim that’s scientifically testable and falsified. I really don’t see why there’s a need to exempt these scams from legal ramifications.
Harold Camping did not lie. He really believed this. Family Radio is an expensive operation. It is completely dependent on contributions. Because the Rapture did not happen the future of that station is very much in doubt.
He did this before in 1994. While people might be fed up and stop donating it would not be surprising if he continues to receive support. Religious organizations seem to be able to survive being obviously wrong about a big important thing much better than you might imagine.
http://familyradioclaims.com/
Well, someone wants to find out if they can sue him. They’re gonna try!
Great…more stupid crap clogging up the court system…