# Can psychosis be diagnosed from BB posts? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2000, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026 "2000-01-07T03:40:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/201 "2000-01-15T04:01:00Z")
**Phaedrus** posted on 01-14-2000 at 04:04 AM > [@](#): > > In fact, I’ll do you one better, (IRL name deleted). I’ll have MY attorney draw up papers that **if you can show where Guadere and andros or any other your other personalities have posted at the same time I will give you $10,000.00 in cold cash or to anyone who can show me the same, anyone on this board!** I mean it, I mean if you are really this concerned how bout making it REALLY interesting? Hmm? Put your money where your mouth is? And if you can’t prove it, drop it and shut up, before you make yourself look even more nasty and foul than you have. Deal? > > Ken (bolding added) Just so everyone doesn’t have to go through the whole thread. So where’s my 10 Grand? * * * Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/202 "2000-01-15T04:04:00Z")
KGB: Bite my crank, you cum-burping gutter slut. Well, _that_ certainly was fun. I can’t remember the last time I had that much fun. * * * “It’s my considered opinion you’re all a bunch of sissies!”–Paul’s Grandfather ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/203 "2000-01-15T04:50:00Z")
I haven’t checked this thread in a while. Now I look and all hell is breaking loose: obscenities, accusations, conspiracies, ultimatums, tirades. And somehow my good name is being tossed around amidst all this unpleasantness. I don’t know what to say about such a shocking development except … COOL! A relative piker like myself is being accused of skullduggery with the likes of Andros and Gaudere. That should help my rep considerably. Plus I noted in another thread that someone had suggested Phaedrus be banned partly for suggesting I have _ahem_ an unusually intimate relationship with my mother. Once again, Phaedrus is bringing my obscure name to the fore. Thanks, Phaedy! Oh, by the way, you’re insane. Truly. I mean that. Go get help. * * * Up, up and away! ---
**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/204 "2000-01-15T06:12:00Z")
Some interesting stats: Andros: Registered 09-08-1999.Looks like email address is his work account. Posts extensively in Pit, GD, GQ, and on rare occaisions in MPSIMS, on various topics. Gaudere: Registered 07-28-1999. A different, but also work-related email address. Posts extensively throughout the board on various topics. Clark K: Registered 09-03-1999. An AOL, and there for paid for, email address. Not exact proof, but supporting evidence that it’s too much work for them to be the same person. Never heard of him before; I don’t read everything and he has only a few posts. Phaedrus: 9-25-1999. No available email. (Interesting, since you emailed others with obnoxious remarks. Turn about is fair play)Posts almost exclusively in GD, arguing the same points repeatedly. Often defends himself in the Pit. KGB: 12-09-1999. An anonymous hotmail account. (Hotmail, of course, is notorious as the source of the multiple addies multitrolls require.) Posts only to defend Phaedrus; they never post in the same timeframe. (Phaedrus vanishes for a while & KGB bitches. Then Phaedrus returns and KGB is gone.) So apparently your enemy registered Andros, Clark, and Gaudy \*\* before you came here.\*\* Ye GODS, Phaedrus- Her psychic powers doth exceed thy own. Somehow she registered three names PRE-EMPTIVELY to plot against you. Or you’re a sociopath. Either of you demented sock puppets (by which I mean Phaedrus or KGB) are welcome to refute my fairly solid evidence that Andros, Gaudere, and Clark K are not the same person. –John PS, you owe Manny the money. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/205 "2000-01-15T06:31:00Z")
Phaedrus told me in another thread (I forget which one) that some of you regulars thought Phaedrus was ME. Please, in the name of all that is good, and holy… don’t tell me any of you thought this fruitloop was good ol’ ARG. And if ya did think he was me, please tell me why. I’m dying to know. BTW, do I get to see any of those 10 G’s? Adam ---
**Author:** ![David\_God\_of\_Frogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David\_God\_of\_Frogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_God_of_Frogs)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/206 "2000-01-15T07:09:00Z")
OKay, then Phraedus/KGB, I’ll turn this around: if you can show a simulpost between you two, before now, I’ll forgive you of my share of the $10,000 if Manny really decides to share it. ---
**Author:** ![ubermensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bcef8e/32.png) [@ubermensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ubermensch)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/207 "2000-01-15T09:38:00Z")
here’s a thought…i doubt that it would be possible, but wouldn’t it be neat if that the first three months of your membership would be like a trial membership? and if you posted anything considered ‘crap’ your trial name would be deleted? i’ve noticed that most (not all, mind you) of the ‘questionable’ members are less than three months old…so maybe if the trial member’s names were in red or something, we could either believe it, if it seemed kosher, or take it worth a grain of salt if it were rambling, insulting, whatnot… that way, any member’s name not in red could be considered a member in good standing and their opinion duly noted. ---
**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/208 "2000-01-15T13:22:00Z")
From Phaedrus’ email to Guadere: > [@](#): > > since the flat earth thread I have made quite a few friends You mean you made **up** quite a few friends. > [@](#): > > I know you are sensitive and so am I. Yeah, sweets. You’re about as sensitive as steel wool. [quote] People like us are touchy, no denying it. [quote] People like “us”?!? You are one presumptuous SOB. Gaudere’s _way_ outta your league, pal. > [@](#): > > Perhaps in my sensitive state I should not post until I get a better handle on things. Perhaps you should not post at all. In any state. > [@](#): > > I do not need judgement. I need understanding. Then quit being an asshole. > [@](#): > > I am lonely and would appreciate more contact with others. Even if the people you have “contact” with vehemently despise you? > [@](#): > > I prefer to spend time with those who care about me or might want to… You do a really shitty job of displaying that. > [@](#): > > I am honoured that you reached out and I hope your motives are pure." Too bad your’s haven’t been. > [@](#): > > I miss him still; he was my vanguard in a house of pain, shielding me from parents who abused me in every way you can think of. That is why I turned to abnormal psychology texts at the age of fourteen. I knew either they were nuts or I was. It turns out it was them, whew! Don’t be so sure. > [@](#): > > I see the board sometimes as a psychological chess game. In that case you will never beat me. I will have more people like me as time goes on. In my life I have had many admirers and I am sure the board will be no exception whatever you try to do to stop it. Mmmmmmmmm-hmmm. :rolleyes: * * * “…being normal is not necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.” ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/209 "2000-01-15T13:31:00Z")
Hmmmm. The night has ended. Still no word from Phaedrus. All who are surprised, raise your hands. ARG said: > [@](#): > > Phaedrus told me in another thread (I forget which one) that some of you regulars thought Phaedrus was ME. Please, in the name of all that is good, and holy… don’t tell me any of you thought this fruitloop was good ol’ ARG. And if ya did think he was me, please tell me why. I’m dying to know. I don’t recall anybody saying they thought you were he, but it might have happened when he first declared his opposition to evolution in the Flat Earth thread, before it became obvious that he was even more obtuse than you. 😉 > [@](#): > > BTW, do I get to see any of those 10 G’s? Considering his history in the “honesty” department, nobody will see any of that… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/210 "2000-01-15T14:37:00Z")
Phaedrus - the stuff you emailed to Gaudere is obsessive. (Not to mention your posts here and elsewhere on the SDMB.) For some reason, she’s assumed enormous importance to you, despite the fact that you’re not at all important to her. Having been in some psychologically wierd places in my past, I can tell you from experience that that sort of distortion of reality means you need help. Please get it. If you keep this up, I think we may need to ask one of our legal eagles what constitutes **stalking** online. Because you’re workin’ on it real hard. It’s one thing to be unbalanced; it happens to most of us on occasion. But it’s another thing to act evilly. Even someone who’s unbalanced is capable of making moral choices, to act out of love or to act out of hate, anger, and malice. Let go of your anger, let go of your obsession. Get help, and find your way back to health. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/211 "2000-01-15T14:45:00Z")
Oh, I doubt that the $10,000 actually exists. I just want to say two things, even if I’m repeating someone else’s sentiments. 1. Phaedrus/KGB…etc…is really mentally ill. In this case what you are all doing seems pretty obnoxious. It’s just taunting, eh? I understand he’s said hurtful things, but is it not better to leave him alone? 2. Phaedrus is really sane, and taking you all on one big ride. If this is the case, and you have ample evidence…then torch him. * * * “Life is hard…but God is good” ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/212 "2000-01-15T14:49:00Z")
I’m sorry all. I had just barely skimmed this thread, and had no idea that Phaedrus was _stalking_ anyone. Well, then that does present a different problem altogether… Adam ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2000, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/213 "2000-01-16T06:32:00Z")
Jee-hoolie! What is going on here? I ducked out of this thread after a half-dozen posts on the basis of its basic pointlessness. I opened it up again when the post count shot out of sight. Wheeee-oooo! Just one question: aside from all the cloak-and-dagger silliness, of just what terrible thing has **Phaedrus** accused **Gaudere** for which he thinks she should be banned? Having more than one Sig? (That’s a bannishable crime?) Disagreeing with him? (Are the rest of us on his list?) I don’t get it. * * * Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/214 "2000-01-15T19:07:00Z")
I think it’s just a knee-jerk reaction against a poster who has the skill and intelligence to take his posts apart, point by point. Or maybe it’s something else that only makes sense to Phaedrus. I simply don’t understand the man. Not his ideas, not his motives, not his personality. He’s an enigma. Others must think so, too. He’s certainly been given a great deal of attention. I for one, have given up on the whole fiasco. Think I’ll mosey over to MPSIMS. * * * A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/215 "2000-01-15T20:04:00Z")
Way back on page 13 of the flat earth thread I presented this: > [@](#): > > UncleBeer - posted 12-02-1999 03:04 PM > Sonuvabeeeitch, I thought you were leaving, junior. Quit making us wait for your departure; we grow impatient. > By the way, does anyone think else this poor, useless bastard might just be good old ARG220? It is apparent now that I was in error and owe ARG220 an apology. I offer you my sincere apologies and I’m sorry, Adam. I hope you come back and read this. * * * Back to the shit at hand. Phaedrus, you fucking miserable whoreson, it appears you have no ‘evidence’ to post or it would be here by now. You have had more than a reasonable amount of time to produce it. If this were a court of law, and you claimed earlier you were an attorney, or some other such drivel, this case would be dismissed with prejudice. But two other possibilities come to mind. The first, supposes your claim was just another lie in a very long string of them. The second, supposes you were a really shitty lawyer and are unaware of the rules of legal proceedings. How do you suppose the bar association would feel about that? I guess the best we can hope for now is that you have just disappeared completely. I’m sure Manhattan will make an attempt to contact you concerning the money you owe him. KGB: > [@](#): > > By the way, I’ve seen some pretty compelling evidence that Guadere and andros and Clark are one and the same. Fine, great. I’ll repeat what others, and myself, have said, post the goddamned crap already. I earlier made an offer to let Phaedrus e-mail it to me and I extend that offer to you as well. Until you addlepated losers provide what you claim to have, you’re going to be excoriated. Isn’t that obvious? * * * What do I believe in? Not much that can’t be proven by logic and scientific experiment, and you better believe, I want to see the logic and laboratory equipment. --P.J. O’Rourke– ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2000, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/216 "2000-01-15T23:54:00Z")
Potential claimants to the proceeds of my answer to **Phaedrus’** challenge should feel free to join me in my newly born thread, [Who Wants To Be A Phaedrusaire?](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000554.html) * * * Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2000, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/217 "2000-01-16T01:01:00Z")
Ohhhh. Unclebeer. Well, you obviously know that we are two very different people, and I gladly accept your apology. I’d use a smiley, but this is the Pit. Adam ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2000, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/218 "2000-01-16T08:35:00Z")
C & P’d from **manhattan** ’s post at the top of this page: > [@](#): > > I’ll have MY attorney draw up papers that if you can show where Guadere and andros or any other your other personalities have posted at the same time I will give you $10,000.00 in cold cash or to anyone who can show me the same, anyone on this board! I hope I’m wrong about this, but I think Phaedrus could get off on a technicality _vis a vis_ this particular quote. He appears to be tendering an offer, but I don’t see where any acceptance of his offer has been communicated and acknowledged. That said, I am somewhat heartened by the fact that some of his subsequent posts can be read in such a way as to imply that he considers the offer as already binding upon himself. (after all, I do stand to come into enough change to throw a pretty decent kegger :)) * * * Of course truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2000, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/219 "2000-01-17T12:20:00Z")
Thanks, Adam. And I’d use a smiley but I don’t want Chief Scott jumping on my balls. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2000, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/220 "2000-01-18T06:07:00Z")
Well. Well, well, well. Well. I feel even more startled then Clark and Tom. I was out of town for a whole weekend. And I see this abomination of a thread. As Clark said, COOL. BEGIN OPERATION TROLLFEED (may ghod have mercy) Here’s the latest, I guess, for those who might have missed it: [www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000554.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000554.html) **Phaedrus** is now claiming that Li’l Ed asked him not to post his “evidence.” Nice bail, **Shining One**. Not. As to the events of the last few days . . . After I commented that his Amazing Psychic Predictions ™ about me were incorrect, he pointed out that I had indeed posted a count of the words he had posted in the “Earth is flat” thread. Yes, Phaedrus. I actually spent a few minutes c&p’ing your posts into MSWord. And it counted the words for me. Obsessive? Maybe. Obsessed with counting things? Not hardly. (“One!! One trolling post!! Ah-hah-hah!!”) Next, > [@](#): > > And while you are at it, why don’t you explain to the class why you post “bruce” as a closing name NOT a sig line recently when you have NEVER done so before? It was a **joke** , pally. Read it in context. > [@](#): > > And why your e-mail address is [sic] “mikey”? Hmmm? Which is it? While it’s not any of your business, I would like to point out that neither “Andros” nor “Mikey” are at all close in spelling or pronounciation to “Shannon.” FWIW, Andros is a very old family name. Mikey is a common diminutive for Michael (also a very common name). > [@](#): > > And why don’t you further explain why you haven’t read your e-mail for a week? I don’t know of anyone who goes that long without checking their mail, ever! Yes, perhaps because you only know newbie lusers who still think email is only for passing along “Top Ten” lists, ULs, chain letters and stupid virus hoaxes. I have several email addys–two at work, two for my at-home business, one for spam (when I’m required to give my addy to a mailing list), and one for friends and family. I don’t always check them all every day just to please obsessives. > [@](#): > > where is your other persona [andros]? How come “he” hasn’t answered the question of counting? Unlike some people I could name, the SDMB is _ **not my life.** _ I do things, I have RL friends, I don’t spend my days in front of my computer at home desperately concocting alternate personae, a fictional personal history, and lame conspiracy theories (no offense, Krispy), while moaning about how awful life has treated me. Further, I don’t take this board seriously. I like being here, but it’s not my first electronic hangout, and it won’t be the last. Personal insults might get my dander up, but only because I allow them to. I certainly **do not** take this board into my real life. I’d say that was a word to the wise, but instead I’ll keep in mind the Pounder line about pearls and swine. Oh, John Corrado sed: > [@](#): > > BTW, Phaedrus- you called yourself ‘Bob’ for a while. Now you’re ‘Ken’. I’m waiting for you to call youself ‘George’ or ‘Geoff’ so I know exactly what KenBobG means. Actually, **I** was the one who started calling him “Bob,” after he told us his “real” name in the lamented “Earth is flat thread.” I couldn’t keep his pseudonyms straight then, and I’ve always like Bob. Has a nice ring. Sorry about the confusion. And finally, this was on the 14th (Friday): > [@](#): > > If at the end of the day I have not proved my point beyond a reasonable doubt, I will stop posting here and leave Sigh. If only. -andros- [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026.md?page=12)