# Can psychosis be diagnosed from BB posts?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2000, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026 "2000-01-07T03:40:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/81 "2000-01-14T03:29:00Z")

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## posted 01-06-2000 06:04 AM

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> I used to think it was a game with you, O Shining One.  
> But I’m starting to believe you’re either schizophrenic or paranoid delusional. I’m going to read up on this, review your posts (oh, joy!) and see if I can come up with a diagnosis.
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> I’ll get back to you.

I’m still working on it, Phaedy.

## Patience.

Stop telling God what to do.

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**Author:** ![Felice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Felice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Felice)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/82 "2000-01-14T04:03:00Z")

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> 71% with qualifications isn’t too bad.

That’s not how I interpret your results, Phaedrus. I maintain that in order to evaluate your special ability to read people, we should disregard ALL the generalizations and consider only those things you said about me which are unique, and personal.  
I found ten statements which I consider generalizations. If anyone disagrees, I will be happy to recompute.  
I also maintain that all the ‘obvious’ observations should be excluded, on the grounds that they do not indicate any superlative ability to read people. I found five statements which I consider ‘obvious’ to anyone who has read all my posts. Now, what’s obvious to me may not be to everyone, so if anyone disagrees with me, I will be happy to change how I computed things.  
Which leaves seven specific statements you made about me. Five of which are wrong.  
Not overwhelming accuracy.

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Felice

“Everything, once understood, is trivial.” -WES

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/83 "2000-01-14T04:18:00Z")

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Felice, you strike me as an intelligent person.

Trust me when I tell you that you will soon grow weary of communicating withPhaedrus,AKA O Shining One.

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Stop telling God what to do.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/84 "2000-01-14T06:01:00Z")

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**Gaudere** the alleged multiple personality, said:

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> Count yourself lucky that you have not gotten an frothing email from Phaedy delinating all the aliases he thinks you have used and that your family life must have been like. (FTR, all his guesses were wrong; I have never posted under any name but Gaudere) Did I say think? He claims to have proof-valid-in-a-court-of-law that I am two other posters. I would have been funny as hell if he had posted his claims, but getting a long, ranting, insulting personal email popping up in your inbox like a manure-sprouted mushroon is a little creepy. Anyone else gotten one from him?

Damn. Well, that’s what I get for not checking that mail account all week. Yes, as a matter of fact, I got the same message. **Phaedrus** claims to have proof positive that Gaudere and I are the same person. And that she’s also Clark K. The latter I cannot answer, but I sure take Gaudere’s word for it.

I can say, as I have before, that I have **never** posted under another screen name. Oh, I’ve sure been tempted, but I figgered, why bother? I obviously don’t take this message board as seriously as some people do, right Ken?

Gaudere is a very nice person. I like her a lot. But I’ve never met her IRL, and I most certainly am not her. And while I may be a David Bowie fan, “andros” is **not** short for “androgynous,” as Phadrus insinuates.

I can post the message he sent, but it’ll have to wait until monday, I’m afraid. Otherwise, I guess the only way to prove it to him is to deliberately simulpost. But that’s not worth my time. I’d rather not challenge Ken’s delusions any more than necessary.

Now. That out of the way, you did considerably worse than 71% on reading me, pally. Whatcha say to that?

And whatever your reasons, you deliberately misled, inveigled and obfuscated on the Flat Earth thread. It doesn’t matter if you were playing a part or not–unless you state from the beginning that you’re “acting,” you are being dishonest. Or will you deny that outright? And no “but I’m telling the truth this time, honest!” whines.

-andros-  
increasingly entertained and horrified

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/85 "2000-01-14T06:04:00Z")

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> but I sure take Gaudere’s word for it.

That she isn’t Clark K, that is.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/86 "2000-01-14T06:15:00Z")

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Huh. I thought of emailing you and asking if you had gotten the same email, but I assumed Phaedrus wouldn’t email you, since he thought you were me. Geez, if Clark K got one, too, he must be confused as all-get-out. FTR, if we’re compiling stats, Phaedrus’ assumptions in the email were all wrong about me, aside from his claim that I am “sensitive”–which is a 99.9% safe bet to guess if you know you’re talking to an artist (which he did).

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/87 "2000-01-14T10:04:00Z")

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andros: Perhaps you might like to explain this.

"andros Member posted 12-08-1999 03:03PM

~61,181"

This was a single post of “yours” that you made in the flat earth thread. No explanation, nothing to indicate what you were even talking about.

It’s found on:  
[http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000488-16.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000488-16.html)

Then in the next page you say:

"andros Member posted 12-09-1999 11:07 AM

Oh, and congratulations on your lastest spate of posts, Ken/Phaedrus/Bob. They push you  
over the 65,000 word mark.

No, that wasn’t a typo, kids.

65,000 words.

My Pulitzer-prize-winning novel was barely longer than that."

And yet here you claim:

“and you have at times counted things unnecessarily, things like floor tile while  
going to the bathroom in public places.”

Two thousand sixty-four. Yeah, definitely two thousand sixty-four. I want to drive now.  
False, as near as I can tell. I’m into patterns, not quantities. I’ll freely admit to looking at the grout between the tiles, but I can’t recall ever counting the tiles themselves."

Nah, you don’t count things, nah couldn’t be that, could it?

And while you are at it, why don’t you explain to the class why you post “bruce” as a closing name NOT a sig line recently when you have NEVER done so before? And why your e-mail address is “mikey”? Hmmm? Which is it?

And why don’t you further explain why you haven’t read your e-mail for a week? I don’t know of anyone who goes that long without checking their mail, ever!

That is unless you check your mail under the account you use more often, like, say, oh I don’t know, sjburch?

Yeah, your not the same person, I got it, Shannon/Mikey/Bruce/Guadere/andros/Clark K/Cowardly Pseudonym.

Are you all the same person? Absolutely! Can I prove it? Beyond a shadow of a doubt!

Shannon, you are obsessed. I would have let this ride but evidently you EGO demands that you not only discredit me but that you do all that you can so that people won’t like me. It is really sad, Shannon. Really sad. ☹

Shannon, you want to prove that you are really another person?

To do so would be easy. All you have to do is show when you and andros or Clark K or Cowardly have posted at the same time (the same minute). So you know how often that happens? More often than you’d think. You could rig it now, only it’s too late for that. I not only know how often it happens but with whom, I’ll give you a little clue. When people post next to each other it is more likely to occur, you know, like the fact that you and andros have posted right next to each other many times, but NEVER on the smae minute.

In fact, I’ll do you one better, Shannon. I’ll have MY attorney draw up papers that if you can show where Guadere and andros or any other your other personalities have posted at the same time I will give you $10,000.00 in cold cash or to anyone who can show me the same, anyone on this board! I mean it, I mean if you are really this concerned how bout making it REALLY interesting? Hmm? Put your money where your mouth is? And if you can’t prove it, drop it and shut up, before you make yourself look even more nasty and foul than you have. Deal?

Ken

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Phaedrus, Defender of Truth, Justice, and the Native American Way

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/88 "2000-01-14T10:08:00Z")

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Check, your move.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/89 "2000-01-14T10:17:00Z")

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Oh, and one more thing, it is too early to let KGB know about this but when I do you can be sure that they will post here on this matter.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/90 "2000-01-14T10:40:00Z")

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Another curiosity for those reading this. How is it that andros “assumes” that Guadere would agree to “simulpost”? That would require not only agreement between the two parties to attempt it, but also communication between them. Quite an assumption, unless, of course, you are the same person.

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**Author:** ![KGB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@KGB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGB)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/91 "2000-01-14T12:06:00Z")

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**SHANNON** , just received an interesting call from my “cousin” Phaedrus needless to say I’ve been reading right along and I find it amazing that you are as insensitive as you are. Your performance as “Guadere” in this post and your “performance” as “andross” in the flat earth thread after Kenny had mentioned all the loss he had been through were some of the most insensitve remarks from a human being that I have seen in my entire life!

Could it be a coincidence that all of your “characters” are trying to discredit Kenny and all have that in common. WallyM7 is **NOT** any of your “personalities” **THAT MUCH** is sure. It is easy to be a “Lady” when you use another screen name (andros) to foist your bile on others. I don’t believe in coincidences like that.

You seem to be putting all the blame on Kenny but remember you started the war!  
Yours,

Susy

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/92 "2000-01-14T12:49:00Z")

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Mergans to heaventroid!

Is there no end to your nonsense?

I have a diagnosis.

You’re a fucking fruitcake, Phaedrus.

You too, cagey-bee.

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A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/93 "2000-01-14T13:03:00Z")

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Wow Wally, just throwing away $10,000.00?

YOU must be loaded! Hey, buddy, can ya spare a dime? 😉

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/94 "2000-01-14T13:21:00Z")

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Phaedrus, you are an intelligent man.  
Why do you squander your God-given talents playing stupid games? You could be one of the brighter posters here, if only you weren’t so stupid.

Yeah, it’s contradictory. It’s also true.

Get a hold of yourself, man.

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A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/95 "2000-01-14T13:42:00Z")

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Wally, thank you for the compliment.

I don’t see this as “playing a game”.

I am sincere in my offer and my claim about Shannon. I would have left this alone but I know for sure that Shannon has reasons to try and discredit me. I am sorry for that and if she wasn’t so adamant about it I would have let it go.

There were three people that were REALLY upset with me and the shennigans I pulled in the Flat Earth thread. You, Shannon, and David.

I will be posting a public apology to David in this section of the board to do with as he sees fit.

To you I apologize right now!

You are a VERY insightful (young, I think, man). YOU were the only one who had the balls to call me on the "phaedrus gets sick and had to be taken care of by his friends)!

YOU caught it and NOBODY else did, then again you have read Lovecraft so you had a headstart.

I apologize to you now in front of everyone.

WallyM7, I was an ass in the Flat Earth thread, you treated me bad there and I had it coming.

I hope you are forgiving enough to accept my apology. If you don’t, it doesn’t mean you are small, it just means that every action has a consequence and I should have known that when I hide behind a false image to hide from the pain of my losses.

Yours Truly,

Ken

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/96 "2000-01-14T13:51:00Z")

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I’m speechless.

Of course I accept your apology.

By the way, I’m not young. I’m nearly 50.

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A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Phaedrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@Phaedrus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phaedrus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/97 "2000-01-14T14:07:00Z")

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Holy chit! Must be young at heart! 🙂

Hey, there goes my “Psychic” bit! 😉

I am nearly 45, now that is something I’ve never told ANYONE here!

Thank you for accepting my apology, if you hadn’t it would have been no reflection on you.

I hope you can see what I mean about the Shannon thing.

What to know a REALLY cool secret?

That patent thing I have for preserving mushrooms for up to twenty-five years without cryogenics? If you’d like, I’ll e-mail it to you, but you have to promise that you won’t tell anyone. I got all the paper work from the patent office to patent it and then my wife died and I just let it go. It is REALLY cool!

Thank you again, Wally, from the bottom of me heart! 🙂  
Yours,

Ken

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/98 "2000-01-14T14:15:00Z")

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You’re making it very hard for me to get mad at you. 🙂

Go in peace, Phaedrus.

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A seminar on time travel will be held two weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![aenea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@aenea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aenea)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/99 "2000-01-14T14:36:00Z")

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Wow, I have been reading this and your other threads Phaedrus, and I’m impressed! You are really a nut!

Hey, I’m new here, only a few posts. Can you tell me about myself? Give me a psychic reading? C’mon, I’ve always wanted to try one. 😉

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2000, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-psychosis-be-diagnosed-from-bb-posts/4026/100 "2000-01-14T15:04:00Z")

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> Originally posted by andros:  
> as a matter of fact, I got the same message. **Phaedrus** claims to have proof positive that Gaudere and I are the same person.

Interesting. If he really believes you are the same person, why send the same message to both of you?

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