# Can Scott Walker be re-elected Governor of Wisconsin? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 20, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184 "2014-06-20T00:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DJ\_Motorbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@DJ\_Motorbike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DJ_Motorbike)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/41 "2014-06-23T16:35:34Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Or, even, stay out of jail? > > Despite [this](http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/john-doe-prosecutors-allege-scott-walker-at-center-of-criminal-scheme-263839791.html)? > > He does seem to be getting in deeper. > > [Ballotpedia page on the election.](http://ballotpedia.org/Wisconsin_gubernatorial_election,_2014) Deeper? The Jon Doe investigation has been shut down because there was no evidence of wrongdoing. The prosecuters are being sued. Hopefully the prosecuters will be left homeless and pennyless. The details of what went on during this illegal investigation sound like something that would happen in communist East Germany. [Prosecuters with militarized police broke into homes without knocking in the middle of the night and stole computers and documents.](http://watchdog.org/143085/fourth-amendment-raids-scott-walker/) Gag orders were placed on the vicitms of this witch hunt and were denied legal representation. And it was all over NOTHING. This investigation has been ongoing since 2010 and no evidence of wrongdoing has been discovered. Yet lying scumbag leftist editors write headlines like: Walker at Center of _ **Criminal Investigation!!! LOL!!!** _ When the headline should read: Investgation into Campaign Funding Shut Down - Prosecuters Being Sued for Civil & Constitutional Rights Violations Despite the assult of an unquestionably anti-conservative media Walker has managed to defy the left. He will win this November. Jail? :rolleyes: Sorry BG that ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/42 "2014-06-23T17:27:08Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > The New Republic on Scott Walker, hate radio, and the WOW counties: > > [Scott Walker's Toxic Racial Politics | The New Republic](http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118145/scott-walkers-toxic-racial-politics) > > > [@](#): > > > > Walker’s ascent had not prepared him well for the national stage. . I would argue that the kind of thing that has been, and is being, tried on Walker is preparation for the national stage. A non-stop barrage of mudslinging, innuendo, outright lies, and vicious personal attacks is pretty SOP for the Left on any Republican with aspirations to the White House. Given the ravening hatred of the teachers’ unions based on Walker’s efforts at reining in their greed, there is little that strikes me as too low for the left to descend. After all, look at this kind of childishness - > [@](#): > > At Marquette he earned the nickname “Neidermeyer”: > [http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/dritys/Bh47z\_aCAAI8oq1\_zps06c48edb.jpg](http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/dritys/Bh47z_aCAAI8oq1_zps06c48edb.jpg) _:shrugs:_ Walker won’t be indicted, and will be re-elected. He’s a couple of points up in the polls even after the release of the documentation that the prosecutors could find nothing. No doubt the lefties will make something else up, and feed it to each other uncritically. But I grew up in in Wisconsin, my folks still live there (in the same city as Walker) and my siblings live in the suburban and exurban towns that support him. Heck, my parents are squishy soft liberals, and they aren’t falling for the nonsense either. Regards, Shodan PS - **BG** we aren’t invading Iran either. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/43 "2014-06-23T17:31:32Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > 😕 WTF? > > Belling did not make up stories about inner city women killing their children by rolling over on them. It’s happened several times in Milwaukee. How about giving a cite about any lies he’s broadcast? > > And as far as his terminology to describe people, remember Belling is not a newscaster. He is a talk show host and he frequently admits that he is biased. > > Have you ever heard him when he hosts Limbaughs’ show? He’s nowhere near as obnoxious as he is on his own show. > **[The Mark Belling Files - A Portrait in Propaganda (Part One)](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/05/1167468/-The-Mark-Belling-Files-A-Portrait-in-Propaganda-Part-One)** > > This past May, as part of my work with the Media Action Center (http://www.mediaactioncenter.net/), I had the opportunity to monitor and record two weeks of the Mark Belling show. Mark Belling is ... Very direct parallel with Faux when he declaims about the “War on Christmas”. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/44 "2014-06-23T17:34:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How did you reach this understanding? [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/04/05/wisconsin-voter-suppression/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/04/05/wisconsin-voter-suppression/) > [@](#): > > The next thing you need to consider is that Wisconsin is an open carry state. Providing the building used for the polling place allows for weapons (so, no schools, government offices, courthouses, etc), a person can now be standing 3 feet behind you carrying a semiautomatic weapon as you register or sign in to vote. If combined with the ability to selectively target voters thanks to the GOP’s new voter suppression computer network, we are looking at a perfect storm for voter intimidation. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/45 "2014-06-23T17:37:30Z")
Bit of a stretch, doncha think? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/46 "2014-06-23T17:38:17Z")
> [@Reginald\_Hobbes](#): > > Yet you post like you’re an expert, quoting an article from a guy who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, whose one source made half that shit up. A critique of the article. > **[Murphy’s Law: Walker, Sykes and Belling](https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2014/06/19/murphys-law-walker-sykes-and-belling/)** > > The New Republic feature story on Scott Walker and talk radio is juicy stuff. But is it true? > [@](#): > > New Republic magazine’s senior editor Alec MacGillis goes on to note other mean-spirited, racially-charged statements made in the past by Belling, and we are soon rolling along on his juicy tour of the racial politics of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, U.S.A. > > No, it is not a pretty portrait, and it is getting national discussion, while leaving Belling, Charlie Sykes and many Republicans in an uproar. I freely admit I am not intimately familiar with the politics of Wisconsin. But as an ex pat and perhaps also a future resident, I have more than a mere passing interest. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/47 "2014-06-23T17:47:34Z")
I think you are kind of missing the point, which is that _The New Republic_ and Wisconsin Democrats are not very good sources for accurate, unbiased information about Walker. Not to mention that the basis for your ideas about an organized armed Republican gang of vote suppressors is more than mildly ridiculous. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/48 "2014-06-23T17:55:28Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > PS - **BG** we aren’t invading Iran either. Indeed, at this point we might **ally** with Iran. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/49 "2014-06-23T18:42:01Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > [Mark Belling - Let Us Spot The Lies : Sly in the Morning : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive](https://archive.org/details/MarkBelling-LetUsSpotTheLies) > [The Mark Belling Files - A Portrait in Propaganda (Part One)](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/05/1167468/-The-Mark-Belling-Files-A-Portrait-in-Propaganda-Part-One) > > Very direct parallel with Faux when he declaims about the “War on Christmas”. These aren’t lies. These are him giving his point of view on things. Just because you find his opinion of something distasteful doesn’t make them lies. Quote: \*The next thing you need to consider is that Wisconsin is an open carry state. Providing the building used for the polling place allows for weapons (so, no schools, government offices, courthouses, etc), a person can now be standing 3 feet behind you carrying a semiautomatic weapon as you register or sign in to vote. If combined with the ability to selectively target voters thanks to the GOP’s new voter suppression computer network, we are looking at a perfect storm for voter intimidation. \* Where is there a polling place that isn’t a school, government building, courthouse, etc? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/50 "2014-06-23T19:08:43Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > I understand they may bring armed “poll watchers” into Democratic precincts. > [@Bricker](#): > > How did you reach this understanding? > [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/04/05/wisconsin-voter-suppression/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/04/05/wisconsin-voter-suppression/) > > > [@](#): > > > > The next thing you need to consider is that Wisconsin is an open carry state. Providing the building used for the polling place allows for weapons (so, no schools, government offices, courthouses, etc), a person can now be standing 3 feet behind you carrying a semiautomatic weapon as you register or sign in to vote. If combined with the ability to selectively target voters thanks to the GOP’s new voter suppression computer network, we are looking at a perfect storm for voter intimidation. When you said, “I understand they may bring armed poll watchers into Democratic precincts,” which of the following sentences best captures your intended meaning: (A) I understand that it is legal for a poll watcher in Wisconsin to be armed. (B) I am aware of Republican plans to direct armed people to Democratic precincts to serve as poll watchers. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/51 "2014-06-23T19:25:46Z")
I think it’s © Rachel Maddow is a better-looking version of Art Bell. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/52 "2014-06-24T15:55:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I think it’s > > (C) Rachel Maddow is a better-looking version of Art Bell. Well, his sentence is unclear – especially since the support he offers is a cite that shows Wisconsin is an open carry state. When I first read: > [@](#): > > I understand they may bring armed poll watchers into Democratic precincts. It seemed to me to be a claim that he was aware of some plan. Having read his cite, and then re-read his sentence, it seems he’s now simply saying that he understands that it would be possible for a poll watcher in a precinct that was not hosted in a school, church, or government office building to be armed. I have no idea what percentage of polling places in Wisconsin are NOT in churches, schools, or government offices – I suspect very few, but that’s based on my experience in another state and may be completely off base. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/53 "2014-06-24T16:13:50Z")
I did a bit of Googling, and it appears that the idea is Walker and His Evil Republican Minions will be roaming the streets on election night, snapping pictures of license plates and looking the owners up in order to decide if they need to to send thugs down to intimidate and challenge Democrats. And since WI is an open carry state, that transmogrified into armed gangs of GOP voter suppressors. It seems a little clumsy to me - how they can tell by looking up license plates who is voting Democratic is not clear. And if it is merely to find the black voters, then the look up isn’t necessary either - just stick your head in and count noses. Nor is it really necessary to do this to find the black voters, or the Democrats - I expect mostly everyone in inner city Milwaukee and Madison of voting Democrat. And as mentioned, I grew up in Wisconsin, and I never heard of any polling place that wasn’t in a school, church, or public building. FWIW. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/54 "2014-06-24T16:36:54Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > It seems a little clumsy to me - how they can tell by looking up license plates who is voting Democratic is not clear. They can’t, but by cross-checking the registered owners’ names with voter rolls they could at least tell who is a registered Dem. ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/55 "2014-06-24T17:19:31Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Where is there a polling place that isn’t a school, government building, courthouse, etc? 😕 I have voted in both a church hall and a Knights of Columbus Hall over the years. Around here they have gotten away from using schools so that they don’t have to shut down the school for the day. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/56 "2014-06-24T21:01:41Z")
> [@WreckingCrew](#): > > I have voted in both a church hall and a Knights of Columbus Hall over the years. Around here they have gotten away from using schools so that they don’t have to shut down the school for the day. 😕 They’ve used schools here forever. Never once have I known a school to be closed because it was an election day. > [@Bricker](#): > > I have no idea what percentage of polling places in Wisconsin are NOT in churches, schools, or government offices – I suspect very few, but that’s based on my experience in another state and may be completely off base. FYI it is not illegal to carry a gun in a church. But I really know of no churches that are polling places. (But I’m in a large metro area. YMMV in smaller communities.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/57 "2014-06-25T06:47:48Z")
Many moons ago, when living in Chicago, my polling place was in the back of a bar. :eek: You do the gun law math. ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Hobbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@Reginald\_Hobbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reginald_Hobbes)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/58 "2014-06-25T11:11:35Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > FYI it is not illegal to carry a gun in a church. What if the church also has a school attached? > [@](#): > > But I really know of no churches that are polling places. (But I’m in a large metro area. YMMV in smaller communities.) Seven of the ten polling places in my community (relatively large Milwaukee suburb) are churches. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/59 "2014-06-25T14:10:02Z")
Given the spectacular lack of success of previous Walker investigations, I’m sure you’ll all excuse me while I ignore this one until something actually _happens_. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184/60 "2014-06-25T14:16:06Z")
Innocent until proven guilty only applies to criminal sanctions. It does not, and should not, apply to judging a candidate’s fitness for office. I’ve seen enough to know I don’t think he should be President. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-scott-walker-be-re-elected-governor-of-wisconsin/691184.md?page=4)