# Can someone decipher theses hockey stats for me, please

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**Created:** [April 25, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504 "2025-04-25T20:57:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
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The other night I’m watching the Carolina/New Jersey game, using the FanDuel app on my phone. Across the top were the following stats (sorry, not sure how to post a picture).  
S, BLK, FW%, PP, PO, PIM, H. I assume S is shots, and BLK is blocks, however, in my screenshot, the Devils have 18 shots, and 7 blocks. That would mean they’ve scored 11 goals, and I know that’s not right. But, I could be wrong about my inference.

In the next block, it shows FW, with the name Hischier and 11, under it. P, with the name Haula and 1, under it. And lastly, TOI, with the name Dumoulin, and 17:38, under it.

I haven’t really paid attention to hockey in a LOOOOONG time, so I’m pretty confused.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/2 "2025-04-25T21:01:31Z")

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TOI = Time on Ice. Dumoulin was on the ice for 17 minutes and 38 seconds.  
Hischier has won 11 faceoffs.  
Haula has 1 point. (a goal or assist)  
FW% = faceoff win percentage.  
The blocks means New Jersey blocked its **opponent** 7 times.  
PP = power play  
PIM = penalty minutes

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/3 "2025-04-25T21:04:04Z")

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Deleted; others have smarter answers than mine. 😉

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/4 "2025-04-25T21:04:17Z")

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First blocks are a defensive statistic. They have nothing to do with your own shots. A block is if a defenseman (usually) blocks a shot before it gets to the goalie. Blocked shots don’t count as shots on goal, I’m pretty sure. All shots are either goals or saves by a goalie.

I’m pretty sure a shot that goes wide is not a shot for statistical purposes, but it might count as a scoring opportunity which is more subjective. A clean breakaway when the skater misses the goal without the goalie touching it would probably be a scoring opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/5 "2025-04-25T21:20:39Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> TOI = Time on Ice. Dumoulin was on the ice for 17 minutes and 38 seconds.  
> Hischier has won 11 faceoffs.  
> Haula has 1 point. (a goal or assist)  
> FW% = faceoff win percentage.  
> The blocks means New Jersey blocked its **opponent** 7 times.  
> PP = power play  
> PIM = penalty minutes

Does TOI mean Dumoulin has been on the ice longer than any of the other Devils?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/6 "2025-04-25T21:21:49Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> All shots are either goals or saves by a goalie.

A “shot” has to be “on goal” as in it would have gone in if the goalie wasn’t there. How they can be sure of each shot attempt even in the hi-res video era is unknown.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/7 "2025-04-25T21:22:52Z")

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Not necessarily. It could just be something specific about Dumoulin himself, if the TV network felt it was worth mentioning.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/8 "2025-04-25T21:23:56Z")

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I don’t know if hockey is like soccer, but the statisticians often play things pretty fast and loose with shots on goal in soccer, counting even shots that wouldn’t have gone in, as a “save” by the keeper if the keeper touches the ball in some way. So I’m thinking there may be some shots on goal in hockey that wouldn’t have gone in, but the keeper touched the puck, so the stats guys generously credit him with a “save.”

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/9 "2025-04-26T00:23:10Z")

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> [@Yodalicious](#):
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> Does TOI mean Dumoulin has been on the ice longer than any of the other Devils?

> [@Velocity](#):
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> Not necessarily. It could just be something specific about Dumoulin himself, if the TV network felt it was worth mentioning.

If you’re seeing this in your app, then it probably means he was on the ice the longest. Those apps typically show the leader under each category, which seems likely since you described each category as having a single name under it.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> I don’t know if hockey is like soccer, but the statisticians often play things pretty fast and loose with shots on goal in soccer, counting even shots that wouldn’t have gone in, as a “save” by the keeper if the keeper touches the ball in some way.

From what I’ve seen, they don’t do this in hockey. If the goalie catches or deflects the puck, it still isn’t counted a shot unless it would have gone in.

It’s just a best judgement call if it would have gone in, they aren’t doing replays for what’s only a stat and doesn’t affect the game outcome. I’ve been a scorer in junior games, and I defaulted to calling it a shot if I really couldn’t tell (goalies like the extra save and skaters like the extra shot in their stats). But I wasn’t calling anything that hit the goalie a shot.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/10 "2025-04-26T04:18:27Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> A “shot” has to be “on goal” as in it would have gone in if the goalie wasn’t there. How they can be sure of each shot attempt even in the hi-res video era is unknown.

We’re saying the same thing. A shot is either a goal or a save. It doesn’t include blocked “shots” or wide “shots”. The question of determining this is just a judgement call of he scorer, but he can’t award a shot unless he also awards a save or goal.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-decipher-theses-hockey-stats-for-me-please/1017504/11 "2025-05-05T14:07:34Z")

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Just to further clarify what a “shot” is, it’s any attempt that has a chance of going in. The interesting part about this clarification is that a shot that hits the post (and does not go in) DOESN’T count towards that player’s shot total since it had no chance of going in.

EDIT: Stray apostrophe…
