# Can someone explain the Taylor Swift phenomenon to me? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [March 19, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339 "2023-03-19T02:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/662 "2023-12-07T07:24:06Z")
Yeah, no body-shaming going on there, no siree. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/663 "2023-12-07T07:30:47Z")
No, it is _clothing_ shaming and I simply refuse your extremely streched claim otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/664 "2023-12-07T07:57:07Z")
[quote="Darren\_Garrison, > **Summary** > > post:663, topic:981339"] > No, it is _clothing_ shaming > [/quote] > > > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > > she has no neck > > > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > > The hand even looks a little off. > > Sure, whatever you say… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/665 "2023-12-07T08:02:43Z")
The selective quoting of just “she has no neck” when the actual post says “Why did they pick a photo that makes it look like she has no neck?”, I think, is a clear and deliberate attempt to change the meaning of what I said _and meant_ by manipulating the quote. The “hand even looks off” is a joke based on my premise that it looks like an AI image hybrid of Taylor Swift and a cat, as AI has a tendency to both combine more than one subject in an image into a hybrid and also do strange things with hands. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/666 "2023-12-07T08:03:47Z")
I’m only going to reply to you in the Pit thread, thanks… ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/667 "2023-12-07T14:52:59Z")
moderating: > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The selective quoting of just “she has no neck” when the actual post says “Why did they pick a photo that makes it look like she has no neck?”, I think, is a clear and deliberate attempt to change the meaning of what I said _and meant_ by manipulating the quote. > > The “hand even looks off” is a joke based on my premise that it looks like an AI image hybrid of Taylor Swift and a cat, as AI has a tendency to both combine more than one subject in an image into a hybrid and also do strange things with hands. This is junior modding. If you have a problem with the way you were quoted, either clarify if you think you were misunderstood, or report it if you think the misunderstanding was intentional. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/668 "2023-12-07T16:33:11Z")
Moderating: > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > > > Man, cleaning all that cat hair off that black suit is gonna be a bitch. > > Just let them clean the hairs off while she’s wearing it and she could find people to pay her. > > Now that I think about it, there would probably be takers for cleaning the empty outfit, too. That’s the sort of creepy sexualization of ordinary details of life when a woman is involved (removing cat hair, of all things) that we are trying to move away from. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/669 "2023-12-07T18:14:20Z")
I don’t get this criticism. She’s obviously wearing a sweater. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/670 "2023-12-07T19:40:29Z")
I don’t think we’d be seeing this level of conversation about Joe Jonas’ clothes and how he looks weird in them. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/671 "2023-12-07T19:57:58Z")
Joe Jonas? Nah. But Harry Styles? Hell yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/672 "2023-12-07T20:01:48Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > But Harry Styles? Hell yeah. There was trouble when he walked in to an interview wearing a scarf, rumors of a neck job. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/673 "2023-12-07T22:47:12Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/674 "2023-12-07T22:48:58Z")
Maybe I’ll consider his opinion more seriously when _he_ donates a million bucks in each community where he performs. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/675 "2023-12-07T22:52:09Z")
That’s not a dork. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/676 "2023-12-07T23:02:29Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Maybe I’ll consider his opinion more seriously when _he_ donates a million bucks in each community where he performs. He made almost as much money as Taylor in the communities where he “performed”, so he could certainly have afforded to do it. > Eric Christopher Conn is an American former attorney and convicted felon who is best known for his role in orchestrating the largest Social Security fraud scheme in United States history. The Social Security Administration estimated that Conn’s fraud scheme cost the government around $550 million. [Eric C. Conn - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_C._Conn) [Would have been nice, but not the same Eric Conn.] ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/677 "2023-12-07T23:06:59Z")
Maybe _I’ll_ consider his obnoxious opinions of this highly successful woman when he quits be the jerk he is. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/678 "2023-12-08T00:42:02Z")
People are so… Fucked in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/679 "2023-12-08T01:18:30Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Sageese77 Troll Posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sageese77-troll-posts/994277/4) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/680 "2023-12-08T00:54:34Z")
I truly believe Taylors poop may not stink. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/681 "2023-12-08T00:57:06Z")
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