# Can someone explain the Taylor Swift phenomenon to me?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [March 19, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339 "2023-03-19T02:50:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/702 "2023-12-10T20:59:34Z")

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Yes, I can block them, but I don’t know which one is the real Elon.

I’m just kidding, I blocked the real Elon ages ago. I block off of posts I see. Most of my followers are bots, I’m sure. I don’t care. As long as they don’t bother me, they can follow me. They never interact with me.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/703 "2023-12-10T21:42:50Z")

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You can do what’s called a “hard block” or a “soft block”. When you click on “block”, that creates a hard block: Neither of you can see each other’s posts and neither can follow the other. To create a soft block, click on “block” then immediately unblock that account. The effect is that he is removed from your followers, but he can still see your posts.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/704 "2023-12-11T10:46:23Z")

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Just don’t name the kid anything that rhymes with Conn. That would be cruel.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/705 "2023-12-11T11:45:34Z")

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Kami Conn?

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/706 "2023-12-11T12:57:43Z")

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Rahm Conn?

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/707 "2023-12-11T13:53:48Z")

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These are pathetic clowns. They aren’t sexy. Good men do not call women ugly (hard eyeroll) and they certainly don’t talk about whether they have any eggs left. ick Too early for these idiots to get on my nerves, but there it is.

I’m sure their ideal girlfriend isn’t above 14 years old or so.

> <https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1733925545597878732>

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/708 "2023-12-11T15:32:58Z")

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They only see women as incubators for their spawn. They continue to prove this endlessly.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/709 "2023-12-11T16:46:00Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> They only see women as incubators for their spawn. They continue to prove this endlessly

Plus those women are cruelly holding back something these men think they deserve.

It’s an ugly, arrested development mindset.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/710 "2023-12-11T20:58:01Z")

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Shaka Conn?

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**Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/711 "2023-12-11T21:03:55Z")

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If they’re gonna be superficial, I can be, too. Bunch of pathetic uggos.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/712 "2023-12-13T06:03:23Z")

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Browsing Amazon Prime tonight, I see that the Eras Tour Movie just became available for streaming - but only as a 48-hour rental, at a price of $19.89 which was no doubt dictated by Tay-Tay Herself.

I fully expect it to make all of the money.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/713 "2023-12-13T09:55:27Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> at a price of $19.89

It’s her birthday today, probably not a coincidence.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/714 "2023-12-13T11:05:04Z")

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But did she deserve to be the Person of the Year? It doesn’t bring attention to someone who’s done important work or highlight an important issue. She’s just really famous. 🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/715 "2023-12-13T12:59:25Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> It doesn’t bring attention to someone who’s done important work or highlight an important issue

That’s not a requirement for Person of the Year. It’s about having an outsized influence on news and events. And not necessarily _the_ most influence or they’d give it to the president most years but someone who uniquely stood out that year in the news whirlwind.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/716 "2023-12-13T16:40:28Z")

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Let’s not discount her contributions to food banks everywhere she performs. She is a large net good for the planet as well as being mega famous.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/717 "2023-12-13T16:44:06Z")

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That’s true, I’d forgotten about that part. I’d still argue Dolly Parton deserves it more just based on cumulative good deeds.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/718 "2023-12-13T16:56:15Z")

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She also donated $1 million to the Tennessee tornado relief fund.

> **[Taylor Swift donates $1 million to Tennessee tornado relief fund. How you can...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2023/12/11/taylor-swift-donates-1-million-tennessee-tornado-fund/71882903007/)**
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> Taylor Swift donated to the fund providing vital services to people who live in tornado-ravaged areas.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/719 "2023-12-14T10:42:12Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I see that the Eras Tour Movie just became available for streaming - but only as a 48-hour rental, at a price of $19.89

There’s a 2-hour film of her “1989” tour (in 2015) free on Youtube. I just blew my $20 on Eras, so I will report back on how they compare.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/720 "2023-12-14T10:45:03Z")

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I spotted a “Reputations” film as well on one of the streaming services (maybe Prime - can’t remember).

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-the-taylor-swift-phenomenon-to-me/981339/721 "2023-12-15T15:50:45Z")

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Sorry I aven’t read the entire thread, but search did not show this had been discussed.

Yesterday I saw a house in our neighborhood flying [a flag like this one](https://www.ebay.com/itm/325651136729). At first glance, I thought it was a [  
Trump flag](https://www.ebay.com/itm/375029139607?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1v3M41SN5R7KCqZs6TR5_VA66&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=375029139607&targetid=1584739238534&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9021437&poi=&campaignid=19894961968&mkgroupid=148855406073&rlsatarget=pla-1584739238534&abcId=9307911&merchantid=114599814&gclid=Cj0KCQiAj_CrBhD-ARIsAIiMxT9zQ8ebfvtf-RCO9AYKxHjnqtVV86F1gnef4YXuAr5NYCRCLUkVC90aApbuEALw_wcB). It really appeared quite familiar, not only in the colors, font, and design, but even the slogan at the bottom.

Struck me as odd that it would so closely resemble Trump’s well-known flags. Has anyone heard whether TS approves this flag design, or if they are marketed to certain demographics?

I’ve never heard anything to suggest TS is a Trumpie - or even terribly political in any way. If she is NOT a Trumpie, I would think she would be troubled by this apparent attempt to associate her with him.

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