# Can someone explain today's Frazz to me

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 17, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080 "2006-09-17T16:27:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Crimmsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Crimmsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crimmsy)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/1 "2006-09-17T16:27:19Z")

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Today’s strip can be seen [here](http://www.comics.com/comics/frazz/) today. (If you’re reading this later, it’s the September 17th strip I’m curious about.) Not being a student of art history, I don’t know what a student paying tribute to Francisco Goya would do to shock the grown-ups so badly. I did find an image of [Saturn Devouring His Son](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Goya_-_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo.jpg) on Wikipedia, and that seems to be the most likely answer. Can someone who knows more than I tell me if I’m in the ballpark?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/2 "2006-09-17T16:43:27Z")

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That’s what I thought when I saw today’s strip. Among the daisies and puppies and all, it could be quite disturbing. Probably drawn by Caulfield. 😃

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/3 "2006-09-17T16:44:09Z")

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I thought of the _Naked Maja_.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/4 "2006-09-17T16:49:30Z")

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What confused me was that all of the visible pictures were perfectly normal kid-drawings. I had to stare at the comic for a couple of minutes before I realized that the offending drawing was around the corner, not visible.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/5 "2006-09-17T17:34:38Z")

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I think [this](http://www.asmilan.org/teachers/rmarjerrison/art_images/Goya's,%20Execution%20of%20Spanish%20Rebels%20under%20Napoleon.jpg) is one of his more known works. (note: jpeg is 863 x 618 pixels, 483k)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/6 "2006-09-17T20:39:56Z")

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I just went looking for possibilities, too, on seeing that strip. Personally, my guess would be the [Witch’s Sabbath](http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/goya/GOF007.html). The [Naked Maja](http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/633.html) probably wouldn’t be it… While a naked lady would be somewhat surprising at an elementary school, there are enough nudes in art that it wouldn’t particularly be a tribute to Goya in particular.

Now tell me… How many other comic strips would not only work in references like this, but actually inspire people to go looking for the answers? This is one of the reasons I love _Frazz_.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/7 "2006-09-18T20:26:12Z")

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After a Wikipedia search for Goya, I cast my vote for _Saturn_ as well.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/8 "2006-09-18T23:03:15Z")

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I think it was a nod to the Calvin and Hobbes’ cartoon of _Saturn Devouring His Son_.

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**Author:** ![Crimmsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Crimmsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crimmsy)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/9 "2006-09-19T02:06:05Z")

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I don’t remember that one. Was it a regular C&H strip or was it in one of the books?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/10 "2006-09-19T02:16:24Z")

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Goya also did a series of horrific illustrations entitled “The Disasters of War.” My vote’s for “Naked Maja” though. It’s pretty erotic, even taking into account the vast amount of nudes in classic painting.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-someone-explain-todays-frazz-to-me/373080/11 "2006-09-19T16:08:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Chronos]  
The [Naked Maja](http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/633.html) probably wouldn’t be it… While a naked lady would be somewhat surprising at …  
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It was surprising enough at the time that Goya got hauled before the Spanish Inquisition.
