If we are allowed to say the opposite of what actually happened, I’m going to maintain that James Clapper was never on the View, or any other TV program.
No, no, no. He meant that Clapper spied on the View. Right? There is some serious illegal shit going on during that show!!
Too bad Sam Clovis didn’t go on the View to say, “I think the proper term is not informant,… I’m not going to name the individual, I know exactly who it is … but I will say this: That person had nothing to do with the campaign. They were not part of the campaign.”
Funny how the MAGA crowd won’t listen to the co-chairman of Trump’s campaign that the source had nothing to do with the campaign. So much for being a mole.
Looks OK.
If you feel that article has a bearing on anything I’ve said here - as suggested by your question - then you need to be more specific as to what that is.
BEHAR: “So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?”
CLAPPER: “No, they were not.”
Like pretty much totally disproving the innuendo about the ‘deep state mole’ (I have trouble writing that with a straight face) that you repeated as if it might have even the slightest grain of truth to it? Providing a step-by-step walkthrough of how Pubbie pundits are deliberately using it, as they quite often do, to put forth a conspiracy theory that their leader isn’t an incompetent boob, it’s just that there are dark forces out to get him.
Oh, and of course, Obama.
Like that.
I’ve not said anything in this thread about a “deep state mole” or anything which could be reasonably interpreted as meaning that. I did use the term “deep state” at one point - sorry if that set you off.
None of this has any connection to anything I’ve said here.
This type of thing illustrates the difficulty of serious discussion about these matters. Too much straw-manning and misattribution.
Oh really? Sorry, but you don’t get to change what’s there in black and white.
A basically straight transcription of the story the GQ article debunks.
But you were ‘just sayin’,’ right?
If you think those are the same, then that pretty much says it all. See my prior post.
BEHAR: So I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?
CLAPPER: No, they were not. They were spying on — a term I don’t particularly like — but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence, which is what they do.
BEHAR: Well, why doesn’t [Trump] like that? He should be happy.
CLAPPER: He should be.
SPYING ON THE RUSSIANS? HOW DARE THEY!!! I’m getting a case of the vapors. Anyone have a fainting couch I can borrow?
Its a Scooby play, they will pull the mask off Mueller, and it turns out to be Hillary all along! They are looking for One Thing which will totally and utterly discredit everything, so that they win. Its the Long Bomb Hail Mary Pass from your own ten yard line with five seconds on the clock!
Trouble is, they are behind 60-zip.
So, how is it that there is a briefing of Republican-only officials with a second briefing of a mixed group? If the Justice Department is going to talk about what is going on, how can it be a one party event?
EDIT: I just saw that Schiff has been added. I still don’t understand how the initial plan was to first brief Republicans only. How can that happen?
It means it’s all partisan political theater, not a genuine and substantive attempt to explore and share evidence, and that the Dems changed from disdaining it to calling the Republicans on their little game.
If you think that’s shocking, wait until I tell you that
THE FBI WAS INVESTIGATING A POLTICIAN WHO WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
It’s true! Despite no evidence ever turning up of criminality, they were actively, openly, conducting a criminal investigation (because that’s what the FBI does…investigates crimes) that impacted a presidential campaign.
Aren’t you outraged on her behalf? Or are you OK with the FBI following up on leads?
Which side is it?
(golf clap)
Wait, there’s good news! Trump is awarding a Medal of Honor for bravery in Afghanistan!
“No, Mr. President, that’s not how this goes, you put the Medal on him, sir. He doesn’t put it on you…”
Oh, snap!
Why didn’t Clapper infiltrate the Democratic National Party and the Clinton campaign? They got got hacked by the Russians not the RNC and Trump. The RNC and Trump didn’t need protection from the Russians because they are not incompetent like Hillary and Poedesta. The idiot in charge of the DNC server ignored repeated attempts by the FBI to warn them of the situation. Besides, there’s evidence it was an inside job. Seth Rich anyone?
Because, unlike Trump, her campaign wasn’t actively seeking out Russian contacts.
And, Seth Rich? Really?
Wait… I can already hear you typing a post about Comet Ping Pong.
Because that is not a logical thing to do. If somebody is a victim of a crime, the initial suspicion is not usually that they did it to themselves.
Are you really going to act this unaware of a very real and plausible scenario: The FBI was investigating Russian spies, and in so doing heard Trump affiliates on their wiretaps and saw Russian agents working in his campaign.
Really, just, for a split second, consider that possibility, no matter how remote. Then, in a gesture of good faith, please explain how you would expect them to respond. Be sure to be mindful of the likelihood that whatever you do will be spun as corrupt, biased, and itself illegal.
Besides, there’s evidence the moon is fake. Cheese anyone?
Same impact on the debate.
And a timely reference, too. Just two days ago, the Rich family spokesman filed a federal defamation suit against this type of bullshit. Go ahead, cite your sources. Let’s see if they are currently being sued.