# Can the Democrats win the Alabama senate special election in December? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504 "2017-08-13T00:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/801 "2017-11-21T14:35:59Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > Seems good for a statewide outbreak of the vapours, though. The fainting couch business must be booming down there. Smelling salts have sold out statewide. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/802 "2017-11-21T15:41:09Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Does anyone have any insight to what’s happening over at Predictit? Despite polls showing Jones out ahead, Predictit has Moore : Jones at 62 : 41 > > I don’t know how Predictit’s track record is, but that seems awfully lopsided for someone who should be fighting for survival As said, that’s not really lopsided. Look at the races which really are not in much doubt, and the odds on PredictIt are 90-10, or even 99-1. As for why it slightly favors Moore, I think people just don’t think Alabama will vote for a Democrat in the end. But it’s very volatile. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/803 "2017-11-21T18:12:25Z")
The thing that amuses me is all of the GOPers weaseling lying, and conniving(not her,e just in the country in general) so hard to try to get Alabama to vote Moore in. He is another complete psychopath who it’s entirely possible will vote against any McConnell agenda item out of spite. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/804 "2017-11-21T19:07:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Smelling salts have sold out statewide. You misspelled bath salts. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/805 "2017-11-21T20:25:08Z")
> [@This\_Just\_In\_2](#): > > If the Republicans start to and get away with openly altering elections whenever their favored candidate isn’t winning… then I actually won’t be surprised. A year of Trump headlines has really desensitized me to hearing the ever escalating insanity. Enjoy the bananas America. I can be newly horrified, but rarely these days am I actually surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/806 "2017-11-21T20:57:03Z")
[Trump says Chester the Molester’s denials of improper behavior are good enough for him! Vote Scumbag!](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/21/trump-says-roy-moore-totally-denies-allegations-255551?lo=ap_a1) ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/807 "2017-11-22T16:02:44Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Smelling salts have sold out statewide. Pearls for clutching, sold separately. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/808 "2017-11-22T17:38:32Z")
This is rich: [http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/roy-moores-pastor-ally-says-he-dated-teens-because-of-their-purity](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/roy-moores-pastor-ally-says-he-dated-teens-because-of-their-purity) “A prominent right-wing preacher who appeared alongside Senate candidate Roy Moore at a campaign rally just days ago said that Moore dated teen girls because of their “purity” and because when he got back from Vietnam **there weren’t any women his age left to date.** ” (my bold) So I guess all Vietnam vets had to look for young girls since all the ones of proper age married all the guys who didn’t go to Vietnam. Yeah, that’s the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/809 "2017-11-22T19:23:04Z")
Moore’s Communications Director has had enough. > **[Communications director for Roy Moore campaign resigns](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/361580-communications-director-for-roy-moore-campaign-resigns/)** > > John Rogers, communications director for Alabama GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore, has resigned, the campaign confirmed on Wednesday.”As we all know, campaigns make changes throughout the durat… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/810 "2017-11-27T23:15:36Z")
Do you want to prove that the WaPo has shitty partisan reporters? You can try, but only if you want to prove [that their reporters kick ass and are way smarter than you](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c9b95a9f9d89). This is the most schandenfreudian article ever written. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/811 "2017-11-28T01:50:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Do you want to prove that the WaPo has shitty partisan reporters? You can try, but only if you want to prove [that their reporters kick ass and are way smarter than you](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c9b95a9f9d89). > > This is the most schandenfreudian article ever written. This is a great affirmation of print media. Do you think that a new media outlet with a 24 hour cycle wouldn’t have jumped on it? With some caveats like “there are reports that Roy Moore got a teenager pregnant and forced her to get an abortion” Video journalism deserves all the scorn it receives. When print media dies, I suspect journalistic integrity will as well. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/812 "2017-11-28T01:54:48Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Do you want to prove that the WaPo has shitty partisan reporters? You can try, but only if you want to prove [that their reporters kick ass and are way smarter than you](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the-post-with-dramatic--and-false--tale-about-roy-moore-sje-appears-to-be-part-of-undercover-sting-operation/2017/11/27/0c2e335a-cfb6-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.c9b95a9f9d89). > > This is the most schandenfreudian article ever written. Every day, I try to find a little ray of hope. Today, this was it. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/813 "2017-11-28T17:52:38Z")
Well, well, well… [http://thehill.com/homenews/special/362041-alabama-gop-senator-i-voted-for-a-write-in-instead-of-moore](http://thehill.com/homenews/special/362041-alabama-gop-senator-i-voted-for-a-write-in-instead-of-moore) > [@](#): > > GOP Alabama Sen. Richard Shelby said on Monday that he did not vote for Republican nominee Roy Moore in the state’s Senate special election. > > “No, no, no, I voted absentee. I didn’t vote for him. I voted for a distinguished Republican write-in,” Shelby told reporters when asked if he would vote for Moore, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women. Hard to say if Shelby has that much clout (Sessions always seemed to get his name in the papers more often, even before he backed Trump), but it’s still got to be a body-blow to “da Judge”, in that it gives ‘respectable’ Republicans a clear out in voting for Moore, since their very own Senator couldn’t do it. See what kind of blow-back comes from the Moore camp on this. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/814 "2017-11-28T18:58:11Z")
Does Jones have to win a majority or a plurality? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/815 "2017-11-28T21:44:33Z")
Latest polls show Moore[back in the lead](http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/new_senate_polls_have_roy_moor_1.html). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/816 "2017-11-29T12:36:43Z")
Teenfucker is going to win. A healthy majority of T\*\*\*p voters disbelieve the busload of women who have told the truth about his perverted past. Truth simply doesn’t matter to the Republican base, they believe whatever suits their worldview and whatever their masters at Faux News tell them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/817 "2017-11-29T14:00:50Z")
Huh, I didn’t know that there was such a thing as a genuine investigative reporter, any more. Way to go to the Washington Post for employing them. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/818 "2017-11-29T14:47:21Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Teenfucker is going to win. A healthy majority of T\*\*\*p voters disbelieve the busload of women who have told the truth about his perverted past. Truth simply doesn’t matter to the Republican base, they believe whatever suits their worldview and whatever their masters at Faux News tell them. It’s not that they disbelieve the allegations, it’s that they think that it’s more important to keep as many GOP votes in the Senate as possible. If you think that there aren’t just as many Democrats who would do the same thing, you are delusional. While the allegations against Bill Clinton aren’t as bad, for example, the Democratic bass didn’t give a crap about them and disbelieve the accusers. > [@Chronos](#): > > Huh, I didn’t know that there was such a thing as a genuine investigative reporter, any more. Way to go to the Washington Post for employing them. Agreed. They are the only real newspaper left. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/819 "2017-11-29T14:58:14Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It’s not that they disbelieve the allegations, it’s that they think that it’s more important to keep as many GOP votes in the Senate as possible. If you think that there aren’t just as many Democrats who would do the same thing, you are delusional. While the allegations against Bill Clinton aren’t as bad, for example, the Democratic bass didn’t give a crap about them and disbelieve the accusers. > > Agreed. They are the only real newspaper left. Actually, I saw a poll on NBC last night that showed a very healthy majority of Donald voters who disbelieve the women. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/820 "2017-11-29T15:00:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Actually, I saw a poll on NBC last night that showed a very healthy majority of Donald voters who disbelieve the women. A very healthy number of Democrats disbelieve Bill Clinton’s accusers. I think though that in both cases, they just say that to justify their voting decisions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=42)