# Can the Democrats win the Alabama senate special election in December? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 13, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504 "2017-08-13T00:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/81 "2017-09-27T05:06:44Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Meh. A Republican Senator is a Republican Senator. Nothing changes. Not true, Louie Gohmert has a soulmate in congress now, and liberals the world over have a more prominent lightning rod to focus our ridicule towards. YEEHAW !!! [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hK1FaXcqUgc/hqdefault.jpg "Eric Weissberg - Dueling Banjos (ORIGINAL STUDIO VERSION)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK1FaXcqUgc) As a liberal, this is the song running in my head right now. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6zT8AyfsFmA/maxresdefault.jpg "Sister Act Oh Happy Day HD") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zT8AyfsFmA) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/82 "2017-09-27T05:25:44Z")
[quote=“Salvor, post:81, topic:793504”] As a liberal, this is the song running in my head right now. [/QUOTE] I've got Neil Young's "[Alabama](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD3bGEFxGC0)" running through my head. (Just 'a' wheel in the ditch? Neil, you're being too kind.) Memo to Lynyrd Skynyrd: it may have hurt your feelings when “ole Neil put [Alabama] down,” but looks like he was right all along, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/83 "2017-09-27T08:57:12Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Racist/child molester is a personal flaw that is a deal breaker for me. I have my biases. Anti-gun is an ideological deal breaker and that’s only because the gun-grabbers are not that far from majority to be complacent about it. > No, he isn’t. It is silly to dismiss people who have reached high positions in life (such as a state Supreme Court Justice or a Senator) as “nut jobs”. He might have positions you don’t like, but he is as sane as you. This classifying of political opponents as mentally sick or defective stinks of Soviet Union methodology. You’re okay that he wants to make it illegal to be gay? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/84 "2017-09-27T10:18:29Z")
Republicans are staunch defenders of the U.S. Constitution, so naturally they’re happy to elect a guy who basically wiped his ass with it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/85 "2017-09-27T10:57:26Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Anti-gun is an ideological deal breaker and that’s only because the gun-grabbers are not that far from majority to be complacent about it. I wish you were right about that. If I get to go out and grab some guns, I’m going to melt them down and cast statues of Obama. Moore lacks a basic understanding of American values. He seems to think his religious beliefs trump everything else and will not hesitate to use his power to oppress minorities and the LGBT community. It would be nice if the Democrat could win, but this is after all, Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/86 "2017-09-27T19:25:16Z")
Roy Moore only got 264,000 votes. His opponent, Doug Jones (D), ‘won big’ with 109,000 votes. Still, Three times as many Republicans voted in this primary than Democrats. There are 3.7 Million people in Alabama of voting age. I’m guessing that they vote for the one with the craziest ideas. No offense meant to any Alabamans on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/87 "2017-09-27T19:35:38Z")
The only good thing about Moore is his age. If he does enter the Senate, he has to know that he doesn’t have a future there. So, he’s more likely to be spending his time making outrageous statements. So, having him saying ridiculous statements should help the Democrats going into 2018. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/88 "2017-09-27T20:25:26Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The only good thing about Moore is his age. If he does enter the Senate, he has to know that he doesn’t have a future there. You’re kidding right? Moore will figure God will keep him alive for 400 years of reelections. > [@](#): > > So, he’s more likely to be spending his time making outrageous statements. That’s going to happen anyway. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/89 "2017-09-27T20:31:31Z")
What are you talking about? Moore was _totally_ Trump’s candidate, all that stuff about “endorsing” and huge funding from the Pubbie Establishment was totally fake news! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/90 "2017-09-27T20:51:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What are you talking about? Moore was _totally_ Trump’s candidate, all that stuff about “endorsing” and huge funding from the Pubbie Establishment was totally fake news! Trump has always endorsed Eastasia. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/91 "2017-09-27T22:49:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Anti-gun is an ideological deal breaker and that’s only because the gun-grabbers are not that far from majority to be complacent about it. The gun-grabbers are currently in the majority, with the Christian Nation-ers not far behind. The anti-gun faction, though, are far smaller than the Christian Nation faction. You might want to work on your phrasing, though: It almost sounded like you were objecting to your fellow gun-grabbers, there. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/92 "2017-09-28T08:59:44Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The gun-grabbers are currently in the majority, with the Christian Nation-ers not far behind. The anti-gun faction, though, are far smaller than the Christian Nation faction. > > You might want to work on your phrasing, though: It almost sounded like you were objecting to your fellow gun-grabbers, there. Wait - I thought “gun-grabbers” were the ones who want to confiscate guns, not the ones who grab their own guns at the drop of a hat? I’m so confused. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/93 "2017-09-28T09:12:52Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > - Sessions and Moore split votes 33%/33%, Jones gets 34%. Do election results ever add up to %100? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/94 "2017-09-28T10:54:28Z")
The people who want to actually confiscate guns? Why would one even need a term for such a tiny and politically-insignificant minority? Clearly it means the people who actually do grab guns, like Charleton “Cold Dead Fingers” Heston. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/95 "2017-09-28T13:17:05Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The only good thing about Moore is his age. If he does enter the Senate, he has to know that he doesn’t have a future there. So, he’s more likely to be spending his time making outrageous statements. So, having him saying ridiculous statements should help the Democrats going into 2018. He’s 70, but that’s not particularly old for a Senator. He can easily serve 2 or 3 terms. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/96 "2017-09-28T14:43:46Z")
🙂 Moore is practically a Senator. His opponent’s views on late term abortion in an [interview](http://freebeacon.com/politics/democratic-alabama-no-restrictions-abortion/): Q: “You wouldn’t be in favor of legislation that said ban abortion after 20 weeks, or something like that?” Todd asked. A: “No, I’m not in favor of anything that is going to infringe on a woman’s right and her freedom to choose,” Jones said. “That’s just the position that I’ve had for many years, it’s the position I continue to have.” I am so sure Alabama will vote for that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/97 "2017-09-28T16:04:04Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > 🙂 Moore is practically a Senator. His opponent’s views on late term abortion in an [interview](http://freebeacon.com/politics/democratic-alabama-no-restrictions-abortion/): > > Q: “You wouldn’t be in favor of legislation that said ban abortion after 20 weeks, or something like that?” Todd asked. > > A: “No, I’m not in favor of anything that is going to infringe on a woman’s right and her freedom to choose,” Jones said. “That’s just the position that I’ve had for many years, it’s the position I continue to have.” > > I am so sure Alabama will vote for that. 🙂 That you’re so happy to cheer along someone who thinks gay people should be locked up for being gay is unfortunately not surprising, but it’s still revealing of what kind of American you are. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/98 "2017-09-28T16:10:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That you’re so happy to cheer along someone who thinks gay people should be locked up for being gay is unfortunately not surprising, but it’s still revealing of what kind of American you are. Gay people are in no danger of being locked up for being gay. Freedom of abortion no matter when in the term is espoused by a lot more legislators. So there’s the tradeoff. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/99 "2017-09-28T17:00:41Z")
CAN the Democrats win? Probably not. Part of me wishes they could, because Moore is such a moron. But even a moderate/conservative Democrat would have an uphill climb. And the Democrat running against Moore ISN’T a moderate or conservative. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504/100 "2017-09-28T17:17:49Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > Gay people are in no danger of being locked up for being gay. Freedom of abortion no matter when in the term is espoused by a lot more legislators. So there’s the tradeoff. So if Roy Moore supported locking people up for interracial relationships, or locking Jews up for celebrating Jewish holidays, you’d still support him because of his position on abortion? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-the-democrats-win-the-alabama-senate-special-election-in-december/793504.md?page=6)